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Old Jun 29th 2011 | 5:52 am
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Another road rules question.
Can someone please explain to me the rules at pedestrian lights when they are flashing amber.
If I stop I get tooted by the car behind even if the cars travelling in the opposite direction has stopped for the lights. If I don't stop I feel I am in the wrong.
 
Old Jun 29th 2011 | 6:27 am
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My understanding is for the pedestrian:-
They may cross when they see a green light, as soon as the light flashes they should not start to cross but may continue to if they are already on the crossing

For the driver:-
They must stop when the lights turn red, whent he lights start to flash they must be stopped if a pedestrian is on the crossing, however if the crossing is clear they may move on.
 
Old Jun 29th 2011 | 6:35 pm
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Originally Posted by Fredbargate
For the driver:-
They must stop when the lights turn red, whent he lights start to flash they must be stopped if a pedestrian is on the crossing, however if the crossing is clear they may move on.
Is that quite right Fred - only the lights go straight from red to green?
I love the flashing amber lights that warn you of actual traffic lights ahead!!!

 
Old Jun 29th 2011 | 7:10 pm
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Originally Posted by mondeo
Is that quite right Fred - only the lights go straight from red to green?
I love the flashing amber lights that warn you of actual traffic lights ahead!!!

You are correct I was in the wrong country
 
Old Jun 29th 2011 | 8:57 pm
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Some trafic lights do have flashing amber lights with flashing green for the pedestrian, and some even have countdown, don't y'know.
 
Old Jun 30th 2011 | 7:14 pm
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Originally Posted by Saxy
Some trafic lights do have flashing amber lights with flashing green for the pedestrian, and some even have countdown, don't y'know.
Haven't come across any of those Saxy........

 
Old Jun 30th 2011 | 7:28 pm
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Originally Posted by mondeo
Haven't come across any of those Saxy........

I have. Perhaps it's just Valencia area. We have both flashing and countdown lights.
I am none the wiser than when I started the thread.
 
Old Jun 30th 2011 | 8:18 pm
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I suspect the countdown lights are for bigger/wider/city streets. There are a number in Malaga (city).

There are various places I drive regularly - Fuengirola springs to mind - where a set of lights in one direction can be obviously red (because traffic is at a standstill) with priority for pedestrians but only flashing amber in the opposite direction (still pedestrian priority but leaving it up to the driver to conform).. A recipe for disaster in my humble!
 
Old Jun 30th 2011 | 8:21 pm
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Originally Posted by fionamw
I suspect the countdown lights are for bigger/wider/city streets. There are a number in Malaga (city).

There are various places I drive regularly - Fuengirola springs to mind - where a set of lights in one direction can be obviously red (because traffic is at a standstill) with priority for pedestrians but only flashing amber in the opposite direction (still pedestrian priority but leaving it up to the driver to conform).. A recipe for disaster in my humble!
Some of the flashing amber lights are to encourage drivers to reduce speed. If they do reduce speed and conform the lights stay at flashing and they can proceed. If they do not slow down the lights turn red.

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Originally Posted by fionamw
I suspect the countdown lights are for bigger/wider/city streets. There are a number in Malaga (city).

There are various places I drive regularly - Fuengirola springs to mind - where a set of lights in one direction can be obviously red (because traffic is at a standstill) with priority for pedestrians but only flashing amber in the opposite direction (still pedestrian priority but leaving it up to the driver to conform).. A recipe for disaster in my humble!
I was recently in Madrid and a set by the hotel had a refuge in the centre.
One half would go to green for the pedestrians whilst the other half remained red allowing traffic to flow.These were combined with normal traffic lights further down so there was a short delay in the traffic flow. Inevitably pedestrians would rush across the whole crossing at the first sign of green with many near accidents.
 
Old Jul 1st 2011 | 4:14 am
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In many places here (La Linea seafront and Estepona approaches come to mind) there are uncontrolled zebra crossings across dual carriageways. I don't remember ever seeing that in the UK.
 
Old Jul 1st 2011 | 4:30 am
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Outside Euromarket in Fuengirola there are 3 zebra crossings (one combined with a cycle track crossing) and sleeping policemen in less than 50 metres of road
 
Old Jul 1st 2011 | 4:42 am
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Originally Posted by jimenato
In many places here (La Linea seafront and Estepona approaches come to mind) there are uncontrolled zebra crossings across dual carriageways. I don't remember ever seeing that in the UK.
The one just before you enter the frontier used to have lights controlling it.

However without lights the pedestrians are free to slow the frontier traffic down thus assisting the Spanish blockade
 
Old Jul 1st 2011 | 5:36 am
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Fred, what do you think of the roundabouts on the newish San Roque Estacion bypass?

The exits have two lanes but merge to one lane within 20 metres or so. The right lane has to give way to the left lane. Utter lunacy.

I've not yet had the nerve to exercise my rights in the left hand lane. If I did I would expect to be T boned with extreme prejudice from a car in the right hand lane.
 
Old Jul 1st 2011 | 6:19 am
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Originally Posted by jimenato
In many places here (La Linea seafront and Estepona approaches come to mind) there are uncontrolled zebra crossings across dual carriageways. I don't remember ever seeing that in the UK.

Likely only two types of pedestrians around there.

The quick and the dead.
 


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