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Hello everyone,

We have spent our holidays in Esuri every year for 11 years now and really hope we can make it over again this summer all going well.
Just wanted some opinions on local restaurants and bars worth visiting. Is there anything new and exciting happening in Esuri and in town. Our friends have told us about the re-opening of the clubhouse which is great news however they were not too happy with the service in particular.
It was great back in the time of Jags, then Hoyo 19, busy clubhouse and the option of the shop.

Will potentially the venue that was Hoyo 19 ever open or is a business just not viable there? Surely, there is a need for another bar/restaurant?

Look forward to hearing some views.

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The issue with Jags/Hoyo19 was not viability AFAIK they made a living, certainly in the season. The problem was with local zoning, licences and the neighbour. Hoyo19 was originally licenced as a social club for the villas in Calle Lopez de Ayala - and it has not changed ie it is not zoned for commercial operations. Jag set it up as a membership club on behalf of their community, which was just about legal, but drifted across the line when he started letting the general public in. The Town Hall turned a blind eye until Jag was denounced by a neighbour for noisy partying. The Guardia shut him down. The more recent proprietors have tried to get the appropriate licences from the Ayuntamiento with varying success. They have all been denounced and shut down 😥. However, zoning is controlled by the Junta of Andalusia and nobody has been able to change this - apparently it would take years. People have taken the risk, the Town Hall have turned a blind eye but cannot ignore a denunciation from the neighbour. I cannot see anyone else taking the risk in the near future, especially as long as the neighbour is still there (although it is rumoured to be on the market🙂)).
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Heard strong rumours about something like a bar/ restaurant opening above the shop on Esuri , be great to have something local. Anyone else heard anything ?

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I heard the same in early March

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This rumour was doing the rounds a year or two ago. I've been unable to find the thread but as I recall it there is a lift to get upstairs and legislation said it had to be recomissioned and signed off with a safety certificate. This is probably not going to be cheap and as I recall it someone had to be responsible to sort this out. Either the freeholder or the tenant. There are also ten years of taxes outstanding on the premises. Finally it will be in some competition with the shop and he won't like that. ( Remember the new social club -Hola 19 - version 3). That is of course assuming its not the shop trying to open it up. Therefore I can't see it happening especially during low turnover this summer followed by the winter.

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This rumour was very strong just before Christmas and was accompanied by a decision by the bank the owner to make the lift operational. The aim was to open for the spring holidays. I think Covid has killed all hope of that. No sign of work to refurb the building or the lift so yet again ESURI has been given a body blow. Good news is the shop is now open all day and in the evenings with tables spaced to 2m on the terrace and social distancing in the shop. There were about 5 on the terrace at 12.00 when we passed.

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A little bit of information is a dangerous thing. However I think that Covid has only highlighted the need of extra services on Costa Esuri. Bar, restaurant, shop. I for one am very optimistic.

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Could not agree more. It is time for permanent solutions. Investments for the future. A proper restaurant, a truly local bar, meeting place and center of the community. An anchor tenant that attracts a pharmacy, mini supermarket and other essential businesses.

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Who is going to invest at this point in time. What this crisis has shown is that there are no essential services present on ESURI. Where are those things that Fadesa sold the scheme on. Doctor, farmacia, police post, fire station and schooling in at least infant years.
The only possible route would be public so would the town hall take one unit as payment for all the back taxes not paid and the Communidad pay for a doctor and the province other necessary services such as a mini farmacia. A part time police post in a portacabin on S1 the site with the 5a side pitch which was transferred to the council many years ago as part of the planning approval and where all public facilities, except schools, were to be located.

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Interesting to read all your comments. If there are "10 years of taxes due" on the building, obviously no prospective business start-up will cover that nor should it be enforced if the area is too try recover and prosper.
So it looks like little change for this great place.
I agree a pharmacy and mini-market are much needed as well as a well planned bar/restaurant.
Given the current climate possibly even a takeaway.

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Has there ever been any discussion on forming an owners not for profit cooperation. Might eventually kick start some interest for outside investors to consider CE as a place to setup shop.

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The units in the shopping centre beside Lomas are being sold free of all debts as required by law. So none of the investors have to pay any previous taxes due. Similarly the administrators have given the approval for the lift to be put into action. The only outstanding fees on the locals is a minimal amount owed to the community which is being run by a company based in Ayamonte and this amount is also due to be paid by the seller, not the buyer. I think it is very important that this is clear because there are people interested in doing business in Costa Esuri (Both Spanish & International) and I have a number of clients myself. I will happily release all the information at the appropriate time with the permission of said Investors.

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This is fantastic news! 👍👍👍

One can invest in a commercial business, in CE in this case, knowing that there are no outstanding debts to pay, by law.

The financial crisis of +/- 12 years ago, hit CE really hard, as we all know. We are still heavily affected by this. The current crisis will, economically, be another hit. Bigger many economists say. Sadly (from an economic viewpoint) there will be continuing problems. Of course there are huge non-economic and terribly sad issues with this latest crisis.

But... For those willing to invest..... prices are low, and demand is high!

Demand and 'footfall' that has been increasing for the past 12 years as more homes have been sold. This demand remains there after lockdown, which in itself has increased initial demand. I've never seen our parking so busy (packed, even) as I did last summer. Jags/19h was packed in season, at the same time as the golf club and shop. In any season, whenever there was an 'event', eg quiz, bands, flamenco etc - it was packed.

We are big fans of the shop, but we want a lot more. The place above the shop is IMO the best location on CE to open a bar/resto. I really hope something, finally, happens here.

With these premises debt free legally, the next step is to ensure that all the correct licences to trade are guaranteed before doing the financial analysis and business case. We don't want yet another Jags/19th hole/"fusion resto" scenario.

Its great to hear that there are clients out there, with finances ready to invest, especially in these times. I do wonder why nothing has happened before, but sincerely hope that as we come out of this crisis, there will be people remaining who are still ready to invest.

In particular, I hope the authorities are as 'business friendly' as possible, to create revenue and ..... jobs.

Let's see.

Jon

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Hi Jon
The unit above the Guadiana Market is in the zone designated for commercial use so should not have the same issues as Hoyo19 - just need the investment and the customers 🤩

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Thanks Mike

I realise that its a commercial area (unlike Jags/"fusion") and that it 'should' be OK ... But we've all had bitter experiences on CE that the 'devil is in the details'. So I am sure (& hope) that any investor will ensure that the guarantees I mentioned are in place, before 'signing on the dotted line'.

Its fantastic that they are able to be sold debt free. 👍 .... Also no problems finding customers IMO the demand is already there.

Looking forward to having a drink with you both anywhere, but especially in a new place on CE !

Jon

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Went to Ortega plaza yesterday for a take away chicken from the chicken shop in the corner opposite Negro. Noticed a big increase in footfall from 10 days ago and the whole place was alive. Quite a few of the bars open serving outside in the square. Jon’s favourite tapas bars was serving beer and coffee not sure on food. Mostly orderly queues but both women and men of a certain age maybe 40-60 did not seem to regard social distancing with the same respect as a 75yr old. However all good humoured with a few conversations from the square to the second or third floor balcony. Lots of banter across the square between queues.

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Signs of life in the resto world. We went to La Consolacion in Cartaya, for their wonderful tapas, and, apart from the masks on the faces of the staff, nothing had changed. There may have been a table or two less, but that's all. I had the brocheta of Iberian pork in a Pedro Jimenez wine sauce, more like a media then a tapas, and good value at 4 or 5 euros, I can't remember which.
It's on the roundabout on the main road between Aldi and Carrefour.

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Have been to new restaurant in Cabanas today. Great experience. Had bacalhao a la bras which was only 9 euro. Location is little offroad but easy to find.
Just google Restaurante Charrete

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Cabanas is one of the Portuguese hotspots for Corona Virus is it not ?

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Hi everyone,

So we are back over in this wonderful place for a while. Strange times, so quiet especially noticeable at the golf club and shop.
I do suppose that Covid has now made any future investor of a new bar/restaurant stop in their tracks and re-think. Such a pity. Has there been any update?
On another note, I assume water parks remain closed?

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There will be a new Restaurant above the shop next year. It has been put back because of Covid but it is a definite. There is also talk of a Pharmacy and a shop

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Finally something new!!

​​​​​Im so glad that it is now definitely on and not a rumour any more.

Its the best location on CE IMO, and should succeed with proper professional management.. 👍👍👍

Looking forward to trying it... And hoping that it will become a 'local'

Jon

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I'll believe it when I see it !! We've been let down so many times I just don't believe any confirmed rumour any more !! sorry.

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Of course you are right, been there ... Done it ... And been upset too many times. Experience is a good teacher.

But this is a tad more likely, run by a villa owner who obviously knows the area.... And maybe a cool Guinness will be served :)

And as we discussed on another thread earlier this year.... Probably no issues with the licence/paperwork.... As long as all the homework has been fully done. Again experience will be useful here....

Lets see, but not holding my breath.... But after this crazy year, nice to have something (to try ) and look forward too.... 🤞🤞

Jon

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Actually looks like the Spanish water park is open.... https://cartaya.aquopolis.es/ Smaller than the Portuguese parks but well run, we were planning to go but didn’t go in the end as we were 50:50 on the Covid issue, although the US advice we found online said that provided the water was properly chlorinated that it was low risk...my teenage boys were gung ho but my daughter refused!

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Chlorine does kill off the virus (as does salt water) so as long as you don't use crowded changing facilities and observe social distancing then you will be fine!

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WONDERFUL !! Thanks for sharing such good news

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Does anyone know who the proprietors are that are proposing to open above the shop ? We might feel its genuine if we knew who they are.

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Hi, One of the conditions that my investors had to move forward with the purchase of the commercial unit in Esuri was for the lift to be functioning. As this is needed to run a business on the top floor. The bank provided the funds and below is a photo taken today of a technician putting the lift through its paces. I expect full inspection by next week. And I look forward to releasing the full information of the new services and facility that will be opening soon on Costa Esuri. Covid may have slowed it down slightly but it also emphasised the need for more facilities on Costa Esuri. I have just signed off on the project managing and really looking forward to getting it to key in hand stage.
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Lift install lunchtime today

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Looking good then !! I can't see how a new resto and bar could possibly fail. Absolutely no real competition and hundreds of owners all gagging to go somewhere local rather than going into town. We used to shoot over the bridge to eat at Lupi's until he closed. (monte francisco). I'm sure Jags would still be a success were it not for the legalities. Can't wait !!

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Fantastic news, totally agree that, properly managed, this wonderful location should be a big success for the partners and for Esuri (and other) residents. :thumbup:

Jon

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:goodpost::thumbsup::drinkingpals:

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Hoyo 19
No news , good news ?

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This is good news for the swimmers

Professor Vincenzo Romano Spica is an expert in public health from the University of Rome and one of the lead authors of a paper on swimming pool safety during Covid-19. He tells HuffPost UK he believes it’s safe to go swimming – and he would feel comfortable going swimming himself, in Italy, where he lives.
Chlorinated pools are considered safest, as they’re maintained and regularly disinfected, which can help to deactivate the virus. The World Health Organisation (WHO) suggests “swimming in a well-maintained, properly chlorinated pool is safe”.

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No news and unlikely to be good news. H19H is not in a commercially zoned area of Costa Esuri. Once there was a formal denunciation then the town hall cannot turn a blind eye. It can't open except as a private non-commercial club for Ayala until it is rezoned by Andalusia junta.

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That is good news Michael. When do you estimate completion?

Can you find a minute or 10 to update your C19 page please. It has been a really valuable source over the last 6 months. We are still hoping to drive over via the chunnel, but this much depends on whether France and Spain lock us all down again.

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Great news coming out of Esuri in October. Two new venues on the way for Spring 2021 keeping you watered and fed. Architects already at work so looking forward to getting licence, first commercial project mananging job for me on Esuri. Been dying to get my teeth into this one.:thumbsup:

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WONDERFUL !!! Thank you very much for posting this and GOOD LUCK !

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Great news Michael if only we could get out there.Still it’s some progress which we all have been waiting for.Keep up the good work .

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Wow its been ages since I posted in this thread! My favourite! So Ill mention a few places

One important point. The restrictions West of Faro, have come East. We had lunch in Monte Gordo, yesterday and had to show a negative Covid Test - they accepted our certificates of double vaccination. The terrace was packed so I suppose that they had no proof, in order to enter the resto.

Last week, we ate at the new resto UCA directly behind the Eurotel hotel, and owned by them, you can call the hotel to reserve. it looks like a huge building but is actually not. Id say about the same size as the expensive Pezinhos n'areia under the Panoramico. We celebrated a big anniversary and had a great day there. Taxi to La Guarita bar, wonderful views, with a 'Marque' bottle of Champagne costing half of what youd pay in France! Laurent Perrier. The had run out but gave us a bottle of the more expensive Mumm at the same price. Then a wander down to Pezinhos... For a wonderful meal... Great for special occasions.

Back to UCA.... The food was good, at UCA, small portions, service was attentive, perhaps a little too 'much'. Portion size was small compared to Panoramico (there they are huge!) , and Id say that there are some 'teething' problems, they got the bill wrong for example. The setting is excellent for the views - on the beach raised up. It was expensive and for us its an occasional place to visit - not a regular place.

An excellent fish resto is nearby in Altura, cooked on a bbq. The fact that there is often a queue shows how popular it is. We've never had a bad meal there, its basic but high up on our list. The pin on the map shows where it is. (The resto Ze de Tasca above the pin on the 125 is always busy also cooking meat and fish on the bbq).

UCA has stiff competition for example A Chamine nearly next door door to the Eurotel

We were surprised at all the boardwalks in Altura, going nearly to Praia Verde ... And all the way to Manta Rota, all built since we were last here. That must have cost a lot! Personally we prefer to walk on the beach to Manta Rota and back. But the boardwalk is still very pleasant.

Jon
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Jon