Required registration on the PADRON in Spain
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I have received a letter from my local council in Spain saying I must reregister on the Padron under EC regulations they state.
Council of Registration, the inscription in the municipal Register of inhabitants from EC countries must be confirmed every 2 or every 5 years if you are already registered in the central register of Foreigners.
Is there such a law, does anybody know what this law is and whether its enforceable in law.
I would welcome your views.
Council of Registration, the inscription in the municipal Register of inhabitants from EC countries must be confirmed every 2 or every 5 years if you are already registered in the central register of Foreigners.
Is there such a law, does anybody know what this law is and whether its enforceable in law.
I would welcome your views.
#2
I have received a letter from my local council in Spain saying I must reregister on the Padron under EC regulations they state.
Council of Registration, the inscription in the municipal Register of inhabitants from EC countries must be confirmed every 2 or every 5 years if you are already registered in the central register of Foreigners.
Is there such a law, does anybody know what this law is and whether its enforceable in law.
I would welcome your views.
Council of Registration, the inscription in the municipal Register of inhabitants from EC countries must be confirmed every 2 or every 5 years if you are already registered in the central register of Foreigners.
Is there such a law, does anybody know what this law is and whether its enforceable in law.
I would welcome your views.
#3
I don't actually think there is such a LAW (unless others can show me otherwise).
I always thought that this was optional - although you actually need it for certain events.
Some would argue that one should enrol, but again, I don't think one actually HAS to.
I always thought that this was optional - although you actually need it for certain events.
Some would argue that one should enrol, but again, I don't think one actually HAS to.
#4
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showt...padron+renewal
apparently there is a law
I'll find it eventually & post it.........................
edit - this is taken from one of many Ayunatmiento bulletins
Por acuerdo del Consejo de Empadronamiento de fecha 27 de junio de 2008, se ha propuesto realizar
comprobaciones periódicas de la continuidad de residencia a todos los ciudadanos extranjeros que no estaban
obligados a renovar el empadronamiento cada dos años; pero sà que tenÃan otras obligaciones..............
comprobaciones periódicas de la continuidad de residencia a todos los ciudadanos extranjeros que no estaban
obligados a renovar el empadronamiento cada dos años; pero sà que tenÃan otras obligaciones..............
By agreement of the Census Council dated June 27, 2008, it has been proposed
regular checks of the continuity of residence to foreign nationals who were not
required to renew the registration every two years, but did have other obligations...........
regular checks of the continuity of residence to foreign nationals who were not
required to renew the registration every two years, but did have other obligations...........
so perhaps it's not a law as much as a recommendation?
Last edited by lynnxa; Aug 10th 2010 at 3:17 am.
#5
we've had discussions about this recently
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showt...padron+renewal
apparently there is a law
I'll find it eventually & post it.........................
edit - this is taken from one of many Ayunatmiento bulletins
which roughly means
so perhaps it's not a law as much as a recommendation?
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showt...padron+renewal
apparently there is a law
I'll find it eventually & post it.........................
edit - this is taken from one of many Ayunatmiento bulletins
which roughly means
so perhaps it's not a law as much as a recommendation?
I agree, and that was my point. I too think it's just a recommendation (a nice-to-have).
#7
I'd be interested to see any law, or directive, or recommendation in writing.
I'll take a copy with me next time I attempt to register and see if it helps.
I'll take a copy with me next time I attempt to register and see if it helps.
#9
Yes. Last time I thought all had gone well, then they wrote to me telling me they still needed some documents, some of which they had and some of which they had seen and checked off.
I guess they're not that desperate for the money in Málaga.
I guess they're not that desperate for the money in Málaga.
#10
http://noticias.juridicas.com/base_d...0-1986.t2.html
It is obligatory to sign on your local padron if your habitual residence is in Spain.
If you stick to the wording of the law then unless you spend more time in Spain than you do anywhere else you cannot sign on as it is not your habitual residence - it is an official census which determines all the population statistics for Spain.
Clearly, allowing hundreds of thousands of holiday home owners to sign on would distort the figures.
Because there seems to be little dialogue between local government and central government, the rules have been ignored by local councils who have encouraged anyone with property in their locality to sign on so as to get the maximum subsidy from central government.
It is especially evident in holiday areas where there is a high percentage of Spanish owned holiday homes. Spaniards are most definitely prohibited from being registered in two locations so they cannot sign on the padron - as a result all the foreign property owners are encouraged to do so.
As for the need to re register there do seem to be some circumstance where it might now be necessary but yet again, the various departments involved just don't seem to know what is happening. Up until 1985 it was necessary for everyone to renew every 5 years.
To be fair, if you accept it as a national census of inhabitants it would not be unreasonable to review it in the case of fopreigners who may have moved away. For Spaniards and resident foreigners who move within Spain, they automatically get removed from the old register when they sign on the new one.
#11
#13
Yes there is a law.
http://noticias.juridicas.com/base_d...0-1986.t2.html
It is obligatory to sign on your local padron if your habitual residence is in Spain.
If you stick to the wording of the law then unless you spend more time in Spain than you do anywhere else you cannot sign on as it is not your habitual residence - it is an official census which determines all the population statistics for Spain.
Clearly, allowing hundreds of thousands of holiday home owners to sign on would distort the figures.
Because there seems to be little dialogue between local government and central government, the rules have been ignored by local councils who have encouraged anyone with property in their locality to sign on so as to get the maximum subsidy from central government.
It is especially evident in holiday areas where there is a high percentage of Spanish owned holiday homes. Spaniards are most definitely prohibited from being registered in two locations so they cannot sign on the padron - as a result all the foreign property owners are encouraged to do so.
As for the need to re register there do seem to be some circumstance where it might now be necessary but yet again, the various departments involved just don't seem to know what is happening. Up until 1985 it was necessary for everyone to renew every 5 years.
To be fair, if you accept it as a national census of inhabitants it would not be unreasonable to review it in the case of fopreigners who may have moved away. For Spaniards and resident foreigners who move within Spain, they automatically get removed from the old register when they sign on the new one.
http://noticias.juridicas.com/base_d...0-1986.t2.html
It is obligatory to sign on your local padron if your habitual residence is in Spain.
If you stick to the wording of the law then unless you spend more time in Spain than you do anywhere else you cannot sign on as it is not your habitual residence - it is an official census which determines all the population statistics for Spain.
Clearly, allowing hundreds of thousands of holiday home owners to sign on would distort the figures.
Because there seems to be little dialogue between local government and central government, the rules have been ignored by local councils who have encouraged anyone with property in their locality to sign on so as to get the maximum subsidy from central government.
It is especially evident in holiday areas where there is a high percentage of Spanish owned holiday homes. Spaniards are most definitely prohibited from being registered in two locations so they cannot sign on the padron - as a result all the foreign property owners are encouraged to do so.
As for the need to re register there do seem to be some circumstance where it might now be necessary but yet again, the various departments involved just don't seem to know what is happening. Up until 1985 it was necessary for everyone to renew every 5 years.
To be fair, if you accept it as a national census of inhabitants it would not be unreasonable to review it in the case of fopreigners who may have moved away. For Spaniards and resident foreigners who move within Spain, they automatically get removed from the old register when they sign on the new one.
you seem to have the knack
#14
I need something which refers not to my obligation but to theirs. They're supposedly obliged to register even those without legal status here, yet I can't get on.
#15
It's all in that law I posted the link to - articles 57/8/9 and particularly 59/2.
Unfortunately it is sufficiently vague as to give them plenty of scope to make it difficult for you.
You could try getting a gestor to help you through it - they can usually smooth any path but it is quite wrong that you may have to pay fees just to comply with the law - but that's Spain isn't it?






