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Predictions for 2012
2012 is not far away , How about some Predictions , a few begin with:
UK ,Israel and America to bomb Iran. Taliban declare victory in Afghanistan as NATO withdraws under fire Britain to get`s duped into another misadventure. Turkey to invade Syria. India attacks Pakistan. A prominent Royal will peg it ...Prince Philip sadly Cman gets exposed as being minister for Spanish tourism |
Re: Predictions for 2012
Bankers get increased bonuses
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Re: Predictions for 2012
The UK coalition government will be sorely tested if any of Rotors suggestions come true, with the exception of Prince Philip's demise
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Cameron is toppled as PM. Clegg sent to back benches.
Spain's unemployed rises to 26% UN sends "peacekeeping" force to Libya CMan does U turn and declares UK food best in world |
Re: Predictions for 2012
Steviedeluxe becomes "Our man in Madrid"
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Re: Predictions for 2012
Originally Posted by stuboy
(Post 9716227)
The UK coalition government will be sorely tested if any of Rotors suggestions come true, with the exception of Prince Philip's demise
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Re: Predictions for 2012
Originally Posted by Rotor
(Post 9716254)
So Cman could be intrumental in toppling Cameron? :rofl::rofl:
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Re: Predictions for 2012
Ryanair announce cut price fares for those happy to sit on their cases in the cargo hold.
King Juan Carlos presents C'man with a special award in recognition of his devoted services to the Spanish food industry. Another two Chinese Chippies open in my nearest village. |
Re: Predictions for 2012
There will be more red tape.
There will be more taxation. There will be less personal freedom. The bins won't be emptied any more often. |
Re: Predictions for 2012
Originally Posted by bil
(Post 9716532)
There will be more red tape.
There will be more taxation. There will be less personal freedom. The bins won't be emptied any more often. |
Re: Predictions for 2012
Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly
(Post 9716579)
I think you need a top up bil, looks like your glass is half empty again.
Is there anyone out there that doubts my predictions? Were I half as accurate at picking lottery numbers, I'd be a millionaire many time over. |
Re: Predictions for 2012
The population of Essex will increase by two, four if you count dogs.
The population of Torrevieja will decrease by 20,000. Obama will not get a second term. Bil will join Aggro in posting anti-Spain posts. Rugby Matt will return under yet another name. |
Re: Predictions for 2012
Originally Posted by bil
(Post 9716621)
Oh don't be silly.
Is there anyone out there that doubts my predictions? Based on your predictions we should simply all be drowning our sorrows. Must admit I never quite got my head around it myself, ok celebrate the past year if it's been a good one, but why celebrate the next one when we haven't a clue what it holds in store, apart from your own very negative predictable predictions of course. :confused: Maybe it's just the booze that turns everyone into eternal optimists for a few hours just once every year, although on the bright side, for the rest of the time we do still have steviedelux always trying his best to cheer us all up. |
Re: Predictions for 2012
Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly
(Post 9716650)
So why will everyone be having major celebrations to see in the year 2012 ?
Based on your predictions we should simply all be drowning our sorrows. Must admit I never quite got my head around it myself, ok celebrate the past year if it's been a good one, but why celebrate the next one when we haven't a clue what it holds in store, apart from your own very negative predictable predictions of course. :confused: Maybe it's just the booze that turns everyone into eternal optimists for a few hours just once every year, although on the bright side, for the rest of the time we do still have steviedelux always trying his best to cheer us all up. That doesn't mean we have nothing to look forward to, it just means we have to be grown up enough to realise that the 4 predictions I made are pretty well certain to come true. |
Re: Predictions for 2012
Originally Posted by Rotor
(Post 9716176)
2012 is not far away , How about some Predictions , a few begin with:
UK ,Israel and America to bomb Iran. Taliban declare victory in Afghanistan as NATO withdraws under fire Britain to get`s duped into another misadventure. Turkey to invade Syria. India attacks Pakistan. A prominent Royal will peg it ...Prince Philip sadly Cman gets exposed as being minister for Spanish tourism |
Re: Predictions for 2012
Originally Posted by stuboy
(Post 9716243)
Steviedeluxe becomes "Our man in Madrid"
I´ll post a longer entry next weekend, but a quick summary - bars full, even on a Monday morning, expats here still doing ok in their jobs, certain local bars have closed though, it´s noticeable that some of the street people were employed until this crisis. So, a mixed bag. Predictions? 2 more high speed line contracts to be won by Spanish companies (to add to the one already signed with Saudi). One in Europe, one in central Asia or south America (I already know which countries) The deal to build the new Las vegas near Madrid to be signed and work started. The Spain haters to continue spending their free time on this board, trying to spread their dslike of Spain. Unfortunately, never succeeding. :D Real Madrid to beat Barcelona at least once... |
Re: Predictions for 2012
Originally Posted by steviedeluxe
(Post 9718832)
Never say never, that´s my motto! I´m curently in Madrid, and have a couple of potential business opps that may take off. Not counting my chickens yet though.
I´ll post a longer entry next weekend, but a quick summary - bars full, even on a Monday morning, expats here still doing ok in their jobs, certain local bars have closed though, it´s noticeable that some of the street people were employed until this crisis. So, a mixed bag. Predictions? 2 more high speed line contracts to be won by Spanish companies (to add to the one already signed with Saudi). One in Europe, one in central Asia or south America (I already know which countries) The deal to build the new Las vegas near Madrid to be signed and work started. The Spain haters to continue spending their free time on this board, trying to spread their dslike of Spain. Unfortunately, never succeeding. :D Real Madrid to beat Barcelona at least once... I was actually thinking along the lines of "Stevie Glass half Full", or having considered it further, maybe "Stevie thy Glass runneth over", would be much more appropriate.;) Anyway, I really don't know what we'd do without you cheering us all up during these dark depressing Autumnal days, Steve. :D Great news about the bars anyway, at least there should be lots of happy Landlords about, though whether their clients are celebrating better times ahead or simply drowning their sorrows I have no idea. Hopefully your predictions will come true and there are better times ahead, though just how far ahead, may be a little more difficult to predict. As for Barca/Real, it's hard to say. I would have gone for Barca before the season started, but now it seems wide open and at least a little more interesting than in the last two or three seasons. |
Re: Predictions for 2012
Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly
(Post 9720254)
More excellent news from "Our Man in Madrid".
I'll have to ignore the report I was just reading about the likelihood of the EU fining Spain in the region of 1.000 million euros for it's high unemployment level. Still seems it's making to right moves to correct it, it's now got 300,000 more public employees than it had at the start of the crisis. What is it with these club med countries with their ridiculous staffing levels in the public sector? La UE estudia medidas para sancionar a España por su alta tasa de paro. La multa podrÃa rondar los 1.000 millones de euros España tiene hoy 300.000 empleados públicos más que al inicio de la crisis |
Re: Predictions for 2012
Originally Posted by agoreira
(Post 9720295)
I'll have to ignore the report I was just reading about the likelihood of the EU fining Spain in the region of 1.000 million euros for it's high unemployment level.
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Re: Predictions for 2012
Originally Posted by jackytoo
(Post 9720430)
Seems a bit tough, kicking a country when it's down. That money could go in job creation instead of to Brussels:blink:
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Re: Predictions for 2012
Well if the Spanish can keep smiling thru it all and living it up in the bars, we may just as well join them and our man in Madrid, and sing,... altogether now, ... "Always look on the bright side of life", until of course the inevitable happens and we all eventually disappear from sight beneath a huge ever increasing mountain of debt.
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Re: Predictions for 2012
Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly
(Post 9720443)
Well if the Spanish can keep smiling thru it all and living it up in the bars, we may just as well join them and our man in Madrid, and sing,... altogether now, ... "Always look on the bright side of life", until of course the inevitable happens and we all eventually disappear from sight beneath a huge ever increasing mountain of debt.
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Re: Predictions for 2012
Originally Posted by bil
(Post 9720765)
I still think that a world wide agreement to aboish sovereign debt would do a lot of good and might get things moving again.
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Re: Predictions for 2012
Originally Posted by stuboy
(Post 9720852)
If you'd said odious debt then I might agree with you, But what happens when they can'y pay next time round?
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Re: Predictions for 2012
Originally Posted by HBG
(Post 9720893)
What does a publican do if a customer can't pay for his drink?
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Re: Predictions for 2012
Originally Posted by stuboy
(Post 9720852)
If you'd said odious debt then I might agree with you, But what happens when they can'y pay next time round?
To use the pub analogy, wipe the slates, but do nt extend the facility to everyone in the future. Just the people who in the past, paid up on time. I agree that if we all merrily dance down the same path the next time...... |
Re: Predictions for 2012
Originally Posted by bil
(Post 9720970)
The whole point should be, abolish the debts, and put in agreement to alter how and to whom money is leant in the future.
To use the pub analogy, wipe the slates, but do nt extend the facility to everyone in the future. Just the people who in the past, paid up on time. I agree that if we all merrily dance down the same path the next time...... |
Re: Predictions for 2012
Originally Posted by HBG
(Post 9720893)
What does a publican do if a customer can't pay for his drink?
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Re: Predictions for 2012
Originally Posted by steviedeluxe
(Post 9718832)
Never say never, that´s my motto! I´m curently in Madrid, and have a couple of potential business opps that may take off. Not counting my chickens yet though.
I´ll post a longer entry next weekend, but a quick summary - bars full, even on a Monday morning, expats here still doing ok in their jobs, certain local bars have closed though, it´s noticeable that some of the street people were employed until this crisis. So, a mixed bag. Predictions? 2 more high speed line contracts to be won by Spanish companies (to add to the one already signed with Saudi). One in Europe, one in central Asia or south America (I already know which countries) The deal to build the new Las vegas near Madrid to be signed and work started. The Spain haters to continue spending their free time on this board, trying to spread their dslike of Spain. Unfortunately, never succeeding. :D Real Madrid to beat Barcelona at least once... Using the same logic as you, I predict the "ram it home" how well people are living in Spain will contiue to do so, even though they are on their travels, doing business deals, living life to the full and enjoying their short stay in Spain, will also sprend their free time on this board. :D |
Re: Predictions for 2012
Originally Posted by stuboy
(Post 9721019)
A noble sentiment, but if those debts wipe out the landlord who was relying on said money to pay wages etc. then not such a good idea for him or his staff.
Let us say that China is the country to whom is owed the most money, ok? So, if all debts are wiped, china ends up out of pocket. At the moment the chinese businesses are having problems, because europeans etc are no longer buying enough of their cheap tat. Were the rest of us no longer paying for debt, maybe we would have more money to spend? Just a thought. |
Re: Predictions for 2012
Originally Posted by jimenato
(Post 9721043)
Snatch it back out of his hand and tell him to bugger off:frown:
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Re: Predictions for 2012
Originally Posted by HBG
(Post 9721214)
It's a 6'6" gippo, who's started sipping his pint of cider when you realise that the pound coins he has handed you are chocolate buttons.
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Re: Predictions for 2012
Originally Posted by HBG
(Post 9721214)
It's a 6'6" gippo, who's started sipping his pint of cider when you realise that the pound coins he has handed you are chocolate buttons.
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Re: Predictions for 2012
Originally Posted by jimenato
(Post 9721263)
I've done it. What is the correct answer?
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Re: Predictions for 2012
Originally Posted by bil
(Post 9721162)
Few analogies bear intense examination. A 6 week old kitten is analogous to a Bengal tiger.
Let us say that China is the country to whom is owed the most money, ok? So, if all debts are wiped, china ends up out of pocket. At the moment the chinese businesses are having problems, because europeans etc are no longer buying enough of their cheap tat. Were the rest of us no longer paying for debt, maybe we would have more money to spend? Just a thought. |
Re: Predictions for 2012
Originally Posted by jimenato
(Post 9721043)
Snatch it back out of his hand and tell him to bugger off:frown:
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Re: Predictions for 2012
Originally Posted by stuboy
(Post 9721321)
But this is the point isn't it, China relies on that money being repaid with interest to fund it's own appartus and expansion. You could also argue that if people had more money in their pockets because they were debt free then they would be even less inclined to buy cheat tat and purchase higher end products thus worsening China's exports which in turn would damage their domestic economy, it really is a vicious circle isn't it.
No solution to the problem is without risk and the idea is to find a solution that causes the least pain to all. |
Re: Predictions for 2012
Originally Posted by stuboy
(Post 9721321)
But this is the point isn't it, China relies on that money being repaid with interest to fund it's own appartus and expansion. You could also argue that if people had more money in their pockets because they were debt free then they would be even less inclined to buy cheat tat and purchase higher end products thus worsening China's exports which in turn would damage their domestic economy, it really is a vicious circle isn't it.
They just offered to buy the virtually bankrupt Saab motor company at a knock down price mainly for the technology incorporated into the latest designs. G.M. have put the block on it, though they no longer own Saab, they still hold technology rights which they aren't keen on giving away to the Chinese for obvious reasons. |
Re: Predictions for 2012
Originally Posted by bil
(Post 9721348)
and if the markets collapse, then china is screwed, because its IOUs are worthless.
No solution to the problem is without risk and the idea is to find a solution that causes the least pain to all. Exactly The holy Grail comes to mind |
Re: Predictions for 2012
Originally Posted by stuboy
(Post 9721425)
Exactly
The holy Grail comes to mind Sadly tho, I fear we will have to come up with something more prosaic. |
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