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stuboy Nov 8th 2011 7:25 am

Re: Predictions for 2012
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 9721357)
The Chinese are already looking way beyond cheap tat and trying every which way to move into the hi-tec market by hook or by crook.
They just offered to buy the virtually bankrupt Saab motor company at a knock down price mainly for the technology incorporated into the latest designs.
G.M. have put the block on it, though they no longer own Saab, they still hold technology rights which they aren't keen on giving away to the Chinese for obvious reasons.

Interesting Dick. I've not heard anything about this story, I wonder what price the Chinese could knock a Saab out for.

According to reports last week they (the Chinese) will probably just nick the technology anyway

steviedeluxe Nov 8th 2011 7:28 am

Re: Predictions for 2012
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 9720254)
More excellent news from "Our Man in Madrid".

I was actually thinking along the lines of "Stevie Glass half Full", or having considered it further, maybe "Stevie thy Glass runneth over", would be much more appropriate.;)

Anyway, I really don't know what we'd do without you cheering us all up during these dark depressing Autumnal days, Steve. :D

Great news about the bars anyway, at least there should be lots of happy Landlords about, though whether their clients are celebrating better times ahead or simply drowning their sorrows I have no idea.
Hopefully your predictions will come true and there are better times ahead, though just how far ahead, may be a little more difficult to predict.

As for Barca/Real, it's hard to say. I would have gone for Barca before the season started, but now it seems wide open and at least a little more interesting than in the last two or three seasons.

Perhaps people got the wrong impression when I stated they were full in the morning. Very little alcohol at that time (well the odd cana or vino perhaps). Mainly people popping in for a morning coffee and a bocata, pincho de tortilla (or churros). And a couple of name checks so anyone who visits Madrid can verify that between 10am and 1pm in the morning (Spanish classification of morning), these bars are busy. One - the Corner Cafe on c/Franciso Silvera two the bar La Divina just off c/Fuencarral. The bar at street level near the Avenida de Americas station was also packed this morning, but the location helps it to remain busy (and they do a lot of great tapas and filled rolls)
I have to say also that most places were packed on Saturday night, but that's always been the case. The Triskel pub was absolutely packed on several nights - seems the expats are keeping in work. But there were definite signs that more locals/shops etc had closed, than normal. I saw few job adverts (one for a cook in a bar, another for a waitress at the Molly Malone pub in Malasana), but a lot fewer than used to be the case.

I realise certain people will refuse to believe what I saw, but that's been my experience. It certainly doesn't underplay the fact that the unemployment figures are way too high, even in Madrid which (I believe) is half that of Andalucia. I really hope the casino park complex, which makes a lot of money sense (think of all the south Americans and Chinese who'd fly in to gamble there) goes ahead. 50,000 new jobs will be a great boast. :fingerscrossed:

JLFS Nov 8th 2011 7:35 am

Re: Predictions for 2012
 

Originally Posted by steviedeluxe (Post 9721451)
Perhaps people got the wrong impression when I stated they were full in the morning. Very little alcohol at that time (well the odd cana or vino perhaps). Mainly people popping in for a morning coffee and a bocata, pincho de tortilla (or churros). And a couple of name checks so anyone who visits Madrid can verify that between 10am and 1pm in the morning (Spanish classification of morning), these bars are busy. One - the Corner Cafe on c/Franciso Silvera two the bar La Divina just off c/Fuencarral. The bar at street level near the Avenida de Americas station was also packed this morning, but the location helps it to remain busy (and they do a lot of great tapas and filled rolls)
I have to say also that most places were packed on Saturday night, but that's always been the case. The Triskel pub was absolutely packed on several nights - seems the expats are keeping in work. But there were definite signs that more locals/shops etc had closed, than normal. I saw few job adverts (one for a cook in a bar, another for a waitress at the Molly Malone pub in Malasana), but a lot fewer than used to be the case.

I realise certain people will refuse to believe what I saw, but that's been my experience. It certainly doesn't underplay the fact that the unemployment figures are way too high, even in Madrid which (I believe) is half that of Andalucia. I really hope the casino park complex, which makes a lot of money sense (think of all the south Americans and Chinese who'd fly in to gamble there) goes ahead. 50,000 new jobs will be a great boast. :fingerscrossed:

You sound like you are giving an alibi, what have you done and where were you really between 10 and 1pm?

remember.....you have the right to remain silent, and anything you do say blah blah balh............

bil Nov 8th 2011 7:40 am

Re: Predictions for 2012
 
In the light of the news just posted, I think I'll amend my predictions.

There will be more red tape.
There will be more taxation.
There will be less personal freedom.
The bins won't be emptied any more often.
There will be more cases of paedophilia in the church.

Another very easy prediction methinks.

Dick Dasterdly Nov 8th 2011 10:00 am

Re: Predictions for 2012
 

Originally Posted by stuboy (Post 9721444)
Interesting Dick. I've not heard anything about this story, I wonder what price the Chinese could knock a Saab out for.

According to reports last week they (the Chinese) will probably just nick the technology anyway

They've already bought Volvo, lock, stock and barrel two years ago, so together with Saab that'll be a clean sweep of the whole Scandinavian motor industry.
They really mean serious business at the top end of the market now, so anyone who thinks they're still only into cheap junk is sadly mistaken.

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/200...sold-to-china/

Big shame about Saab.They were already in trouble when the Swedes sold it to G.M. They didn't improve the situation and finally unloaded to some crap Dutch company backed by the Ruskies.
The Dutch seemed to be in it for whatever EU funding they could get their hands on, whilst the Ruskies were after the brand name, possibly to start churning them out in Moscow.
Anyway that all went tits up, partly because GM weren't keen on the Russian investor involved and partly because the Swedish and EU backing fell through, as by then it had gone far to far downhill to recover.
Workers back in Sweden have been laid off for quite a while now without wages, production has stopped and the suppliers are still owed a small fortune, so they pulled the plug as well.
The company seems finished as far as Europe is concerned,but whether the Chinese can resurrect it without the latest technology,remains to be seen.

Rosemary Nov 8th 2011 7:58 pm

Re: Predictions for 2012
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 9721357)
The Chinese are already looking way beyond cheap tat and trying every which way to move into the hi-tec market by hook or by crook.
They just offered to buy the virtually bankrupt Saab motor company at a knock down price mainly for the technology incorporated into the latest designs.
G.M. have put the block on it, though they no longer own Saab, they still hold technology rights which they aren't keen on giving away to the Chinese for obvious reasons.

They already seem to build half of the high tech products sold, under licence. When you consider the expertise being gained it will not be long before they follow in Japan´s footsteps, in fact I suppose that China is analagous to Japan after WW2.

rugbymatt Nov 8th 2011 8:42 pm

Re: Predictions for 2012
 

Originally Posted by HBG (Post 9716642)

Rugby Matt will return under yet another name.

I'm not sure if ignorance or stupidity is worse...

JLFS Nov 8th 2011 8:44 pm

Re: Predictions for 2012
 

Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 9722358)
I'm not sure if ignorance or stupidity is worse...

Welcome back RM.

Where have you been and whats with the Squirrels todger thing?:rofl:

rugbymatt Nov 8th 2011 8:49 pm

Re: Predictions for 2012
 

Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 9722364)
Welcome back RM.

Where have you been and whats with the Squirrels todger thing?:rofl:

I was banned for logging in under loads of individual usernames... I know, I know, it was petty and childish but I was bored and I have so little else to do with my life.


You obviously didn't catch the controversy over the squirrel porn here in the UK? It was devastating, while Rome burned we stressed about a squirrel with huge testicles.

JLFS Nov 8th 2011 8:59 pm

Re: Predictions for 2012
 

Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 9722370)
I was banned for logging in under loads of individual usernames... I know, I know, it was petty and childish but I was bored and I have so little else to do with my life.


You obviously didn't catch the controversy over the squirrel porn here in the UK? It was devastating, while Rome burned we stressed about a squirrel with huge testicles.

I admireyou for fessingup, and I bet you caused a bit of conflict, which is not a bad thing.:rofl::rofl:

As for the squirrel porn, I would have found it very stessing and even distressing if a 15inch flying rat had bigger cojos than me.:rofl::rofl:

Sorry but the state of the world would not bother me in the least if I looked inadequate next to a furry friend from Nutwood.:eek:

JLFS Nov 9th 2011 7:16 am

Re: Predictions for 2012
 

Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 9722370)
I was banned for logging in under loads of individual usernames... I know, I know, it was petty and childish but I was bored and I have so little else to do with my life.


You obviously didn't catch the controversy over the squirrel porn here in the UK? It was devastating, while Rome burned we stressed about a squirrel with huge testicles.

Why didnt you claim that you had a multiple personality disorder BTW were you Perthbum?:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

He has gone AWOL......


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