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Old Mar 31st 2016 | 6:21 am
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Hi, I bought a TV at Ferrer along with a bracket some days ago and have now mounted the flat screen on the wall.
The power cable supplied is 1.5m and I can't find any shop, Ferrer, Chinese and others, where you can buy a 2 or 2.5m cable.
I don't want to fit a 3 way extension appx. a metre up the wall so I am thinking of buying another 1.5m cable and cutting both, use an appropriate connector, and place within some 2cm wide plastic trunking down the corner of my wall, and paint over.
Am suspicious of Spanish electrics at the best of times so just wondering if this would be the best thing to do.
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Originally Posted by XFILES
Hi, I bought a TV at Ferrer along with a bracket some days ago and have now mounted the flat screen on the wall.
The power cable supplied is 1.5m and I can't find any shop, Ferrer, Chinese and others, where you can buy a 2 or 2.5m cable.
I don't want to fit a 3 way extension appx. a metre up the wall so I am thinking of buying another 1.5m cable and cutting both, use an appropriate connector, and place within some 2cm wide plastic trunking down the corner of my wall, and paint over.
Am suspicious of Spanish electrics at the best of times so just wondering if this would be the best thing to do.
Thanks, XFILES
I can tell you what I did in similar circumstances but emphasise that it is not advice - electricity is tricky stuff and can burn your house down if not done properly, fortunately I was once formally trained in electric stuff so not entirely amateur.
I removed the power cable from the back of the TV and fitted a barrel connector in its place on a very short length of cable. I then ran a cable through trunking, which was plastered into the wall, and down to a power outlet. This has the advantage that there is no joint inside trunking which could fail and allows the TV to be removed/replaced without ripping out the plasterwork.
 
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Assuming the TV is a permanent fixture, a better and tidier solution would be to run a spur up the wall (in a duct chased into a solid wall, or inside a stud wall) and install a socket behind the TV to plug the TV in to.
 
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Why not go to an electrician and get one made up?
 
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I am not. sure why the 1.5 metres is not long enough ? I put my tv on the wall and cut a 2 inch hole in the plasterboard behind the tv just above the lower edge. I cut another hole low down behind a cabinet and run all the cables inside the stud wall. As i recall, that was the power cable, aerial cable, hdmi cable and a scart lead for the dvd.
The trunking big enough for this would be quite unsightly imo. As it is all cabling is concealed. I only had ONE socket outlet below the tv, hence have a four way 1 metre extn lead, for the tv, sat box, dvd and stereo system.
Unless you want your tv more thsn 1.5 metres above the floor it should be plenty long enough?
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I am not. sure why the 1.5 metres is not long enough ? I put my tv on the wall and cut a 2 inch hole in the plasterboard behind the tv just above the lower edge. I cut another hole low down behind a cabinet and run all the cables inside the stud wall. As i recall, that was the power cable, aerial cable, hdmi cable and a scart lead for the dvd.
The trunking big enough for this would be quite unsightly imo. As it is all cabling is concealed. I only had ONE socket outlet below the tv, hence have a four way 1 metre extn lead, for the tv, sat box, dvd and stereo system. ....
But you've done pretty much all the work to do a professional job with a proper spur to a socket for the power and to install a co-ax socket for the signal, so why leave ugly unfinished holes into the wall, albeit hidden behind a cabinet and the TV?
 
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Works for me. Out of sight, hence, out of mind.
 
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Works for me. Out of sight, hence, out of mind.
Yeah, well every home I have ever bought has had botched and/or dangerous, and certainly "not to code", work done on them. I take a little more pride in my work.
 
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Hi, thanks so much for your input and advice.
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Xfiles, Contrary to Pulaskis comments, I merely hid the cables in the stud wall making neat circular holes to access. Nothing I have done would contravene the uk 17th edition code. The use of a 4 way in line adaptor is perfectly safe to use for low current applications such as audio / tv. I cant see the point in installing a further 4 power outlets in the wall. I might add that whilst I am now retired i was certificated to 17th edition many moons ago. I have no intention of advising other readers on how to do a botched up job!! Regards Keith
 
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Xfiles, Contrary to Pulaskis comments, I merely hid the cables in the stud wall making neat circular holes to access. Nothing I have done would contravene the uk 17th edition code. The use of a 4 way in line adaptor is perfectly safe to use for low current applications such as audio / tv. I cant see the point in installing a further 4 power outlets in the wall. I might add that whilst I am now retired i was certificated to 17th edition many moons ago. I have no intention of advising other readers on how to do a botched up job!! Regards Keith
Doh! You're in Spain now!

Why not follow Spanish code - which MAY or MAY NOT be the same.
 
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Nice post Keith.
I would add a couple of observations:

Not many Spanish properties have stud walls so the use of chased-in trunking is probably more relevant to local conditions. I chose to run the AV cables as well as the mains cord through the same trunking (I was a bit over cautious and used screened cables to avoid interference). I chose to use an inline connector behind the TV so that I could remove the screen and swap it for another without having to redecorate the room. True, I could have fitted a mains socket and patch panels for the AV connections but they do take up space and my intention was to mount the TV as close to the wall as possible and I think my approach is neat and effective and not too over the top.

BTW - it should be noted in case anybody else is following this thread - that if you run your mains cable through a stud wall then you should first check that it is not filled with, possibly flammable, insulation or soundproofing - in which case you would need to use pyro cable or similar (or possibly flexible fire resistant conduit). Also you would need to be pretty lucky that the stud wall doesn't have cross braces (noggins) so that you can drop your cables from top to bottom [and I'd be a bit wary that a stud wall without noggins could safely support a large screen TV]
 
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Mike, I agree with pretty much all of your comments above. I confess that I was surprised that there were no cross noggins in our MF duplex. I used a stud detector and found they just ran verticle rails about every 400 mm to which they screwed the plasterboard. Dissappointingly there was no sound insulation inside and the gap is only aboutt
40mm wide. Hence noise is easily heard through the wall from the living room to bedroom 2. MF must have saved at least five euros by not putting sound insulation inside !! On the positive side it did make life easy for me to hide the four cables to the Tv. My old townhouse on the costa blanca had no studwork, - all blockwork and hard rendered.
 

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