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Old Dec 13th 2013 | 12:24 am
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Renting is relatively common in large cities anywhere because you have lots of temporary and migrant workers who only plan to be in the city for a few years. However the Spanish are culturally a nation of home owners - they traditionally dislike renting and see it as wasted money, and tend to buy at the first opportunity (which might not be until they are 35 or so). Also property has traditionally been the most attractive investment to them (of course that's changing a bit now). Buying your first home is almost a "coming of age" ritual, and I know a few Spaniards who didn't move in until the place was completely decorated and furnished, down to the last teaspoon. They wanted it to be perfect for the big day they moved in.
 
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Originally Posted by chopera
Renting is relatively common in large cities anywhere because you have lots of temporary and migrant workers who only plan to be in the city for a few years. However the Spanish are culturally a nation of home owners - they traditionally dislike renting and see it as wasted money, and tend to buy at the first opportunity (which might not be until they are 35 or so). Also property has traditionally been the most attractive investment to them (of course that's changing a bit now). Buying your first home is almost a "coming of age" ritual, and I know a few Spaniards who didn't move in until the place was completely decorated and furnished, down to the last teaspoon. They wanted it to be perfect for the big day they moved in.
Absolutely

We were nagged by my in-laws that renting was throwing away money and why do it. I think the quote was "Why work hard all week to pay someone else's mortage". So much so that they have given us their old flat to live in for free
 
Old Dec 13th 2013 | 1:49 am
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Originally Posted by cricketman
What? Who cares what they do in Switzerland?

This thread is about Spain. You said rental is normal and more frequent than in the UK. You are wrong, it isnt. Do some googling if you don't believe me
My original one that you rubbished wasn't, so do some reading and less sniping, banning man.
 
Old Dec 13th 2013 | 1:58 am
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Is it me but £250,000 seems an awful lot for a villa, especcially when only £80,000 is put down. How old are you? Nearing retirement? it will take more than a few years to repay a hefty £170,000 mortgage, I doubt if the rent you will receive will cover the mortgage repayments each year.The ware and tear, plus the maintenance costs and other bills and taxes are not to be ignored.
 
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Originally Posted by casa del sol
Is it me but £250,000 seems an awful lot for a villa, especcially when only £80,000 is put down. How old are you? Nearing retirement? it will take more than a few years to repay a hefty £170,000 mortgage, I doubt if the rent you will receive will cover the mortgage repayments each year.The ware and tear, plus the maintenance costs and other bills and taxes are not to be ignored.
It's not much when you say it quickly, however there are plenty of decent 2 bed villas on the Costa Blanca for circa €200.000.
 
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Originally Posted by crookesey
It's not much when you say it quickly, however there are plenty of decent 2 bed villas on the Costa Blanca for circa €200.000.
£200,000 is also overpriced imo all depending......you can get something very nice for around £100,000 to £150,000....go inland a bit and there is a great choice of nice comfortable relaxing homes for under £100,000......that leaves you with plenty left over to enjoy living with. No good living in an expensive house you can't enjoy, with no money left to have a relaxing time without having to worry about every euro you spend.
 
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Originally Posted by casa del sol
£200,000 is also overpriced imo all depending......you can get something very nice for around £100,000 to £150,000....go inland a bit and there is a great choice of nice comfortable relaxing homes for under £100,000......that leaves you with plenty left over to enjoy living with. No good living in an expensive house you can't enjoy, with no money left to have a relaxing time without having to worry about every euro you spend.
I said € not £, so I don't think that circa £170,000 for something that was possibly £300,000 pre crash is a bad deal.
 
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Originally Posted by crookesey
I said € not £, so I don't think that circa £170,000 for something that was possibly £300,000 pre crash is a bad deal.
If you do your homework and research you will find something very nice for less than that not far from the beach, from costa blanca to costa del sol and other warm places. There are many distressed sellers out there, and there are a few who are not desperate to sell but will for their right price, some have been on the market for years, that must be telling something.
 
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Originally Posted by casa del sol
If you do your homework and research you will find something very nice for less than that not far from the beach, from costa blanca to costa del sol and other warm places. There are many distressed sellers out there, and there are a few who are not desperate to sell but will for their right price, some have been on the market for years, that must be telling something.
I've done my homework, I just pointed out your currency error. I use the very same strategy in Spain as I use in the UK, that is to locate the area before the property. Yes there are many distressed properties out there, many of them because someone paid an 'A' price in a 'C' area, when banks were lending freely and buyers left their brains back home.
 
Old Dec 13th 2013 | 3:18 am
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Originally Posted by agoreira
The advice is generally to rent first, and even though you have been visiting for many years and have decided it's for you, I think I'd still be inclined to rent for 6-12 months first (taking in the winter and renting out your UK home), living there full time can be very different to holidaying. As many have found out to their cost. We have all met and read here of people similar to yourself, convinced it was for them, but for a variety of reasons have ended up returning to UK, poorer but wiser. Missing the grandchildren is often high on the list. I'm not a huge fan of Costa Blanca, especially the southern half, but we visited Jávea for several years and really enjoyed it. Like everywhere else up there, it started to get very built up, so we haven't been back. (remember when the bit between the town and Arenal was mainly scubland? ) Lynnxa says your 80k would get you a decent place, I've no idea of current prices but that surprises me, I thought even in these times you'd have to pay a lot more than that.
80k deposit.... you'd barely get a garage here for 80k

they'll get something nice for the 250 they say they have though
 
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Originally Posted by lynnxa
80k deposit.... you'd barely get a garage here for 80k

they'll get something nice for the 250 they say they have though
That's what I thought, I read it wrong, 80K was just the deposit!
 
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Originally Posted by crookesey
I've done my homework, I just pointed out your currency error. I use the very same strategy in Spain as I use in the UK, that is to locate the area before the property. Yes there are many distressed properties out there, many of them because someone paid an 'A' price in a 'C' area, when banks were lending freely and buyers left their brains back home.
Good point, the banks are no longer lending freely that one of the reasons why property has fallen so readily. Who are people who need to borrow going to borrow the money from to buy. I understand the banks are also holding many properties on their books, some of them will be sold below the said 'market value'.
 
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Originally Posted by casa del sol
Good point, the banks are no longer lending freely that one of the reasons why property has fallen so readily. Who are people who need to borrow going to borrow the money from to buy. I understand the banks are also holding many properties on their books, some of them will be sold below the said 'market value'.
And how well will they credit score? I ask because as the owners of several properties with no mortgages on them and no other loans at all, our score was not good. We now put all supermarket shopping, car fuel, internet purchases etc; on a credit card with a DDM authorising monthly settlement.
 
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Originally Posted by casa del sol
£200,000 is also overpriced imo all depending......you can get something very nice for around £100,000 to £150,000....go inland a bit and there is a great choice of nice comfortable relaxing homes for under £100,000......that leaves you with plenty left over to enjoy living with. No good living in an expensive house you can't enjoy, with no money left to have a relaxing time without having to worry about every euro you spend.
It depends what sort of a property he has in mind. If he wants location, 4 beds/baths. Good location, then 500,000 could be a bargain.

I think to go in and offer 20%+ less you need to do a bit of research. How would you know if the person hasn't just slashed the price...again! I hear mortgages are very difficult to obtain in Spain unless buying a property off their books. Our sale was held up for months because the buyer had difficulties raising the money, even though he had 50% deposit and is an eye surgeon. He finally borrowed off 2 banks so we had 3 bank drafts
 
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Originally Posted by lynnxa
80k deposit.... you'd barely get a garage here for 80k

they'll get something nice for the 250 they say they have though
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