Asking for proof of a vaccine where the person can still catch and spread Covid is not common sense, its daft.

I flew to Gran Canaria two weeks ago and took a test before getting on the plane, I was and have always been negative, met with a friend who was vaccinated, boosted etc who had just recovered from a serious bout of Covid and believed they were finally recovered, turns out they were still infected and gave it to me.

I've had the sniffles for a week but finally tested negative today.

Sorry Rosemary but these rules never protected anyone, they just stole two years of our lives that we´ll never get back.

They can still catch it and spread it, but are less likely to do both and are less contagious for longer even if they do have it. So seems a perfectly sensible requirement to me.

Glad you only had the sniffles though, so many others I know haven't been so lucky.

Better to lose two years of your life than life itself.

Rosemary

Thanks I was really fine.

What you say is where they settled to justify the jabs which clearly don't work the way they should.

Saying you won't be so ill or less likely to die is very woolly science and difficult to argue either way.

There are thousands dying from side effects of the jabs and hundreds of thousands with serious side effects that were probably at no real risk from Covid in the first place had they not had their jabs.

https://www.realnotrare.com/

https://www.vaxtestimonies.org/en

The above are not crazies just normal people who listened to the advice they were given and thought they were protecting themselves and others, unfortunately their lives are now ruined or over.

I agree with this and have always said that testing is the only way to ensure a reduction in transmission.

Some of my friends and family in the UK (term used loosely these days) think that by being jabbed they are now immune and therefore protected.
But to be honest a good deal of the Brits and Germans I know here feel the same.
They bang on about the MMR and BCG and of all things yellow fever jabs and are including the covid one in this. (can't catch yellow fever from someone, the jab like covid was to prevent huge hospital bills if you caught it.)

Ive tried to point out politely that there is NO cure for this as well as colds and flu.

And just for info..
Both myself and my wife have had covid (she still has some inner ear issues)
Mine lasted about 10 days with a 4 day headache then a bad cold and my tinnitus is still worse than usual.
My wife had a bad cold and stomach problems as well as blocked sinus's, her sense of smell has never been good (She burns food on a regular basis)

We both tested positive on the same day and stayed at home until clear.

Neither of us are jabbed.. and we caught it from her 84 yr old father, who refuses to wear a mask except in supermarkets and only after they shout at him. (and is one of those people who think he is protected)
He said he had a head cold so wouldn't bother to test.

My wife has an allergy to one of the ingredients and was advised not to have the jab (at the time only one type was offered).
I never bothered but Im not against it and have no excuse really.

Absolutely.

I'd disagree that the science proving that the vaccines mean you're less likely to catch Covid or pass it on is 'woolly science'. It's anything but IMO and has been proven over and over again.

If it's true that thousands have died from the jab (the links above don't seem to be from credible sources tbh), that's still nothing compared to the millions who died of Covid (including two of my friends, both healthy and in their 40's). And the stats don't include those with long Covid (including one of my son's best friends, who is 14 years old and has been in a wheelchair and unable to attend school, or indeed do anything else at all, for nearly 18 months now thanks to long Covid). It's also a tiny percentage of the billions and billions who've been vaccinated.

I'd be very glad to go to a guesthouse that insisted on vaccination, I'd be much more likely to book it for that reason personally. You obviously differ, so I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one as it's clear we have wildly different view points.

We are all different and have had differing experiences through the pandemic

My experiences are an incredible uptick in funerals of vaccinated people who have died of strokes or heart attacks at what I would consider earlier than normal, mostly people in their 50s early 60s all of previously good health.

I don't know anyone that was made seriously ill from Covid and nobody that actually died.

I am seeing those vaccinated get Covid multiple times and getting it way worse than my sniffles being unvaccinated.

The truth will come out in the end.

Some above say I´m more afraid of not living my life than losing it, but again we are all different.

Hopefully its over now and the remaining restrictions are soon lifted and we can all move on

Time to get back to the original discussion on whether it is now possible to travel to Spain if not vaccintated.

Rosemary

On what do you base this? Credible stats please ? i.e number of vaccines globally -v- deaths (not antivax stats )

11.4 billion doses of vaccine given, of course a small number will die or become ill, same can happen proportionally with any vaccine or drug.

If its only thousands dying that's a very very small fraction indeed, of course any death is tragic but please put it into context !

Little or no credible medical proof in linking vaccines with the death. Just a timeline of events which sadly ends with someone dying. If I've missed the conclusive medical link then please help me find it.

"Saying you won't be so ill or less likely to die is very woolly science and difficult to argue either way."
No, it isn't woolly, it's factual.

"There are thousands dying from side effects of the jabs..."
No, there isn't.

".... and hundreds of thousands with serious side effects..."
Side effects, yes. Hundreds of thousands with "serious" side effects? Nope.

".....that were probably at no real risk from Covid in the first place had they not had their jabs."
Do I interpret that as meaning there were hundreds of thousands who had no real risk of catching Covid, but because they were then vaccinated, subsequently had a greater risk of catching it?
Being vaccinated means you are more likely to catch covid?

Of course, as you stated all this, you can back that up with official data/sources but I think you are looking at the wrong websites to put it mildly.
But yes, sorry UKMS posted as I was posting, so move on back to the OP's question about entering unvaccinated.

Absolutely agree. It was havoc at Portsmouth docks with people not filling in the right documents about covid for boarding. The sooner they get rid the better.

Brits in Spain have just posted this:-

Update to entry requirements for visitors to Spain from the UK*
If you are coming to visit Spain from the UK, there has been a change to the documentation you need to provide. If you have a digital COVID certificate, you no longer need to complete Spain's travel health form. Children under 12 do not need to complete the travel health form either.
Other requirements remain in place. If you are travelling to Spain for tourism, you must show proof of either:
- being fully vaccinated (with both doses of a 2-dose vaccine or one dose of a single-dose vaccine). Your final dose must have been administered within 270 days prior to travel to Spain or you must be able to show evidence of having had a booster jab
- having recovered from COVID-19 within the last six months

that’s a step in the right direction. We had to turn around because we didn’t fill a Spanish health form for our child. Brittany ferries we’re checking everyone had the Spanish health from barcode and the site that you had to use to do it was being very temperamental.