Non-Lucrative Resident Visa
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Non-Lucrative Resident Visa
For those who want to move to Spain and do not intend to work here
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Re: Non-Lucrative Resident Visa
Hi Guys,
Can I jump in with a question?
When my Partner receives her Irish Passport very soon do I then apply for a NLV.
We hope to be in Spain late this year, moving from UK. I will be 65 yrs old.
Thank you
Keith n Macy
Can I jump in with a question?
When my Partner receives her Irish Passport very soon do I then apply for a NLV.
We hope to be in Spain late this year, moving from UK. I will be 65 yrs old.
Thank you
Keith n Macy
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Re: Non-Lucrative Resident Visa
Hi Guys,
Can I jump in with a question?
When my Partner receives her Irish Passport very soon do I then apply for a NLV.
We hope to be in Spain late this year, moving from UK. I will be 65 yrs old.
Thank you
Keith n Macy
Can I jump in with a question?
When my Partner receives her Irish Passport very soon do I then apply for a NLV.
We hope to be in Spain late this year, moving from UK. I will be 65 yrs old.
Thank you
Keith n Macy
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Re: Non-Lucrative Resident Visa
We are in a similar situation. As of last year, I have an Irish passport but sadly, my partner does not qualify for one.
We hop between Spain and Portugal and are resident in Portugal as UK nationals. Certainly as far as Portugal is concerned (and I imagine Spain is similar) the spouse or civil partner of an EU national is entitled to EU residency and EU freedom of movement.
The upshot of the whole thing is, it might be beneficial for you to formalise your relationship via a civil partnership (this is what we did after many years together) because you will then benefit from your partner's Irish nationality. Believe me, it's a darn sight easier than taking the non lucrative visa route.
We hop between Spain and Portugal and are resident in Portugal as UK nationals. Certainly as far as Portugal is concerned (and I imagine Spain is similar) the spouse or civil partner of an EU national is entitled to EU residency and EU freedom of movement.
The upshot of the whole thing is, it might be beneficial for you to formalise your relationship via a civil partnership (this is what we did after many years together) because you will then benefit from your partner's Irish nationality. Believe me, it's a darn sight easier than taking the non lucrative visa route.
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Re: Non-Lucrative Resident Visa
Thank you Lou.
How do I get CP?
TIA
Keith n Macy
How do I get CP?
TIA
Keith n Macy
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Re: Non-Lucrative Resident Visa
You can get a tarjeta de residencia de familiar de ciudadano de la union which you would carry, your partner would need to apply for the green residency card. You can be married, civil partners or even common-law partners (pareja de hecho). You just need to prove you've lived together for at least a year as common-law partners.
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Re: Non-Lucrative Resident Visa
You can get a tarjeta de residencia de familiar de ciudadano de la union which you would carry, your partner would need to apply for the green residency card. You can be married, civil partners or even common-law partners (pareja de hecho). You just need to prove you've lived together for at least a year as common-law partners.
That's you sorted Keithtoon, you can now make your plans!
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Re: Non-Lucrative Resident Visa
Are you still allowed to run an overseas business, in my case the UK?
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Re: Non-Lucrative Resident Visa
Thank You DLC and Lou....
I am smiling!!!
Keith n Macy
I am smiling!!!
Keith n Macy
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Re: Non-Lucrative Resident Visa
Because you have to tell the Spanish tax man about ALL income even if taxed in the UK or elsewhere.
So again (I'm assuming) that when you do your first tax return here, a little (or large) red flag may be raised if you have a non lucrative visa.
I know of a Canadian friend who is here, had to give full details of where the money was and where it came from to get the visa. And he was also asked if he had any 'working' income.
He like me 'gave' his business away to his family who are still in Canada to run and derives no income from it.
I gave mine to my son because of the Brexit changes with tax and VAT.
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Re: Non-Lucrative Resident Visa
I believe not. And would think the words 'non lucrative' were pretty explicit .
Because you have to tell the Spanish tax man about ALL income even if taxed in the UK or elsewhere.
So again (I'm assuming) that when you do your first tax return here, a little (or large) red flag may be raised if you have a non lucrative visa.
I know of a Canadian friend who is here, had to give full details of where the money was and where it came from to get the visa. And he was also asked if he had any 'working' income.
He like me 'gave' his business away to his family who are still in Canada to run and derives no income from it.
I gave mine to my son because of the Brexit changes with tax and VAT.
Because you have to tell the Spanish tax man about ALL income even if taxed in the UK or elsewhere.
So again (I'm assuming) that when you do your first tax return here, a little (or large) red flag may be raised if you have a non lucrative visa.
I know of a Canadian friend who is here, had to give full details of where the money was and where it came from to get the visa. And he was also asked if he had any 'working' income.
He like me 'gave' his business away to his family who are still in Canada to run and derives no income from it.
I gave mine to my son because of the Brexit changes with tax and VAT.
You'd think it was straight forward but I have found several web sites aimed at advising expats that say either you can or cant earn income from outside of Spain
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Re: Non-Lucrative Resident Visa
Tell me about it.
Just ask 4 different tax accountants, lawyers or gestors and you probably get 4 different answers.
Don't think any UK applicant will know what the terms are until they have actually been to the Spanish Consulate in whatever part of the uk they apply to.