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Old Sep 30th 2019, 4:19 pm
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With the possibility that we will either buy a property for part time living or full time, depending on Brexit, we are going out to Spain 12th Oct, is it worth getting our NIE as an initial step? Thing is, I bought a property in Fuerteventura around 15-18 years ago and had an NIE back then but no idea if it still exists.

Please note. this is not a question about how long we may or may not be able to stay in Spain if we leave, It is purely regards whether it's worth sorting out an NIE number.

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This may be of some help for you to do it yourself, although there seems to be plenty of other links whereby you grease their palms with the necessary and they promise to get you the desired result.


https://www.citizensadvice.org.es/fa...ficate-or-nie/
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Originally Posted by del936
With the possibility that we will either buy a property for part time living or full time, depending on Brexit, we are going out to Spain 12th Oct, is it worth getting our NIE as an initial step? Thing is, I bought a property in Fuerteventura around 15-18 years ago and had an NIE back then but no idea if it still exists.

Please note. this is not a question about how long we may or may not be able to stay in Spain if we leave, It is purely regards whether it's worth sorting out an NIE number.

TIA
You will probably need to re-apply so worth doing but I was in a similar situation and ended up with the same number . It is meant to be "for life" and does appear to be.
I would add that i was returning as a resident and if you are not going to be a permanent resident immediately you may only get a temporary NIE.

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There is no such thing as a temporary NIE. As you said, it’s a number you keep for life. That’s it - absolutely permanent.
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There is no such thing as a temporary NIE. As you said, it’s a number you keep for life. That’s it - absolutely permanent.
Would beg to differ :
2.- NIE certificado con carácter temporal

Existe también el NIE con certificado de carácter temporal, que tiene una validez de sólo 3 meses, y está previsto para aquellos extranjeros que en ningún momento piensan residir ni siquiera brevemente en España pero que, sin trasladarse a vivir a nuestro país, deben realizar un acto puntual con relevancia fiscal en España. Algo que harán en sólo uno o varios escasos días día de viaje y estancia (por ejemplo: comparecer ante un notario para recibir una herencia, o para firmar la compra de una casa, etc.).

Basically for those people who need to do something with relevance to the fiscal authorities but have no intention of living in Spain on a permanent basis - examples quoted - appear in front of a notary in order to receive an inheritance or sign the purchase of a property. valid for three months.
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But, they would retain that number if they ever needed an NIE in the future. In other words, the number is permanent.

NIE certificates, on the other hand, are only valid for a limited time, but again the number is retained.

So let’s agree to differ. NIE numbers are permanent. NIE certificates are not.
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Originally Posted by Fred James
But, they would retain that number if they ever needed an NIE in the future. In other words, the number is permanent.

NIE certificates, on the other hand, are only valid for a limited time, but again the number is retained.

So let’s agree to differ. NIE numbers are permanent. NIE certificates are not.
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We got our nie two years before we moved to Spain .During our house purchase we were told it was not registered and had to return to the police station ,they just produced exactly the same copy of paper stamped it and a new date all done. As said nie is for live.
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So let’s agree to differ. NIE numbers are permanent. NIE certificates are not.
I'm curious about this because we obtained our NIEs in 2006 as non-residents - the white A4 sheet. It has on it a date of issue but no date of expiry nor mention of a time limit. Is there a fixed validity on these forms then? As the information on it - the NIE number - is for life what is the purpose of the certificate expiring?
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It does not have a date on it. If you are required to provide an NIE form for certain transactions, like buying a car, you may be asked for a recent (less than 90 days) certificate You just go to the Police office and get a dated one which I think may have an expiry date.
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Originally Posted by Fred James
It does not have a date on it. If you are required to provide an NIE form for certain transactions, like buying a car, you may be asked for a recent (less than 90 days) certificate You just go to the Police office and get a dated one which I think may have an expiry date.
I understand all that, Fred, but what will a new, dated NIE convey to a car dealer that is not already shown on the original certificate. That's what I'm not clear about. Incidentally, my original NIE does show date of issue.

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Probably nothing at all! But hey this is Spain - you don't argue with bureaucracy!
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But, they would retain that number if they ever needed an NIE in the future. In other words, the number is permanent.

NIE certificates, on the other hand, are only valid for a limited time, but again the number is retained.

So let’s agree to differ. NIE numbers are permanent. NIE certificates are not.
I totally agree.And just a note with most things we have gone through your padron has to be no older than 3 months if it is and you need to produce it to who ever, you need to renew it
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I totally agree.And just a note with most things we have gone through your padron has to be no older than 3 months if it is and you need to produce it to who ever, you need to renew it
The padron is forever. The padron certificated, however, needs to be no older than 3 months if asked for.
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The padron is forever.
Unless you move of course, even within the same town.
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