agoreira

True, and the number of bars for sale along the Spanish coasts is incredible, I would hazard a guess they are selling because they are already in deep financial trouble, and have been long before any ban was introduced.
£3.75 a pint? It'll be your round when we get to that pub!

rugbymatt

I hate to think how expensive some places are going to be now, not been out since NYE and even then it was only for a soft drink, I can see the £5 pint on the horizon..... still, Tescos are selling 2 litre bottles of spirits for £25 so its not all bad news eh?

scampicat

They don't actually. If you are a moderate or heavy smoker, ALL your 'fix' does is stops you having withdrawal symptoms.

I do understand, although I have not smoked for over twenty years, I do remember what the addiction felt like.

In case you are interested, there are now all sorts of aids to help you stop smoking. My husband's cousin has given up after forty years of smoking with the aid of some tablets from the Dr and a non-smoking clinic (this is in the UK), she has now not smoked for three years and has a certificate and medal from the non-smoking clinic!

However, with all the aids in the world, they won't be successful unless you actually WANT to give up.

Just thought I'd mention it as some people don't seem to realise there is help out there.

jojojojojo

Maybe! However, I dont want to give up, I enjoy a cigarette!. But I dont think there is a smoker on the planet who doesnt realise that there are apparent aids to help stop. Its all about choices and while smoking is still legal then I'm not breaking the law!

As for my health? well so far, so good. I might think about it if someone can give me a guarantee that if I were to stop then I wouldnt die from some long painful illness!

Jo xxx

rugbymatt

Yeah... you stand your ground!

scampicat

I'm sorry if I offended you with my suggestions, they were well meant.

I'm glad your health is good. No-one has any guarantees, do they?

jojojojojo

No, you didnt offend me I'm a stubborn creature!


I dont actually consider myself as a hardened smoker in any case, I simply enjoy one every now and again! Funnily enough all this writing about it makes me smoke more LOL!!!!!!!!!

Jo xxx

jackytoo

I enjoy a ciggie but it wouldn't stop me flying long haul. 10 hour flight is about 13 without a smoke including airport waiting and immigration. Never think about it during the flight but can't wait when leaving the air terminal. Some of the towns on the CDS have stop smoking sessions. I went about 4 years ago...didn't work but I met some nice spanish people and we had a laugh.

I think drinking culture has changed now in both countries. We wouldn't dream of sitting in a bar or pub all evening although we like a drink. Only go out for meals. None of our friends do either. Suppose it depends how close the nearest bar is too, we have never lived within reasonable walking distance to one so there is the drink driving issue. Why sit in a grotty bar when you can sit at home in comfort

licinius

Well said I've been saying the same thing for ages now, who wouldn't socialise just because you can't have a fag? Sky multi room is also a major contributor to pub decline IMO

scampicat

Although we only live in a tiny village,miles from nowhere, we are within five minutes walk of five bars and twenty minutes walk from another two.

Sometimes I need to get out as I go stir crazy and there is nowhere else to go!

Chiclanagir

How sad for you that you are missing out on so much. I would give my eye teeth to be able to travel so cheaply. I am a very nervous flyer and spend so long on the loo before I even get on the plane but I would never let this get in the way of not going places. The only thing that does that is lack of cash at the present moment. I just go to the doctor beforehand and get valium it is not addictive if you just use it for the flight.

lynnxa

and that is exactly why the smokers will end up going back to the bars


one guy who has his brekkie lunch & dinner in my local was moaning the other day - insisting he wouldn't be going to using the bar at all any more


I'm in there every morning & 3 evenings for classes - & he has been in there every time I have!!

he is popping out for a smoke every few minutes - but he isn't spending any less time or money drinking

Rosemary

My OH and I will now start going to bars for a coffee whereas before the smoking ban we would not as I really cannot abide the smokey bars or the smell of cigs since nursing my mother who died of lung cancer.

Rosemary

bil

I can give you a pretty good guarantee that as a smoker your life will be shorter, its quality reduced, and your death most likely precipitated by your addiction.

I really don't want to be nasty, but the argument that you might die of something else, eg run over a truck tomorrow is pretty spurious, and the usual copout we hear from addicts who have no intention of giving up.

Rotor

I read somewhere that 6 out 10 lifetime smokers don't draw more than their first years pension!