dubdave

Hi all I am Dubdave was thinking of moving to Murcia and opening up a Chocolate shop been doing it for years here so thought I would give it ago in spain Iknow how to run the business but don't know what will be needed in spain such as lawyer accountant retail unit to buy or rent Have all contacts in chocolate business for supplies What do you all think of this Idea

bakedbean

Hi dubdave and welcome to,the forum

As your question relates directly to Spain, I'll shift your thread over to the Spain section of the forum. All the best with your plans.

missile

Chocolate is not so popular in Spain as UK. I guess you know the recipe will need to be modified to avoid melting in the heat?

Good luck.

Rosemary

As Concierge for the Spanish section of BE I would like to say hello and welcome.

BE is a very large expat website, so if you have problems finding your way around we have concierges who will try to direct you. The moderators for the Spanish forums are Mitzyboy and Fred James, moderators are there to ensure that the site runs smoothly within the rules of BE. Problems and complaints should always be addressed to a moderador who will look into the matter and deal with it efficiently and fairly. Our members who post in the Spain Forums are friendly and helpful with a wealth of knowledge of the issues of living in Spain. At the top of the page you will find a quirkily named thread called Free Beer which is full of important and useful information. Hope you enjoy your time participating in the forums.

Please let me know if you need any further help.

Rosemary

Dxf

Hola and Welcome to the Spain forum,

As an occasional chocolate eater, I have come to understand the large differences between "British" and "European" chocolate. Completely different products and each to their own but people take sides in this ;-)

I recently visited a chocolate factory in Pampaniera in Las Alpujarras (Abuela Ili). Many different flavours of chocolates to try - you may strike lucky if you can emulate their type of business - but how large a business do you want to run? I guess not "Cadbury" size

Davexf

mikelincs

You have listed all the people you need, but as missile has said, the recipe will have to be adjusted for Spain as the high summer temps, 35+, mean that the normal UK recipe would just melt all over the place, and the beaurocracy to get licences will drive you crazy.

lynnxa

are you serious??

I don't know a single Spanish person who doesn't like chocolate!

and breakfast for kids consists of chocolate cereal with chocolate milk!

they then progress to churros con chocolate (with brandy in it when they get to clubbing age)

napolitanas con chocolate are sold in every school canteen


I could go on....

paintermujer

Oh yes.They truly love their chocolate.Even when dieting, they still have to have their chocolate fix, just a smaller amount.

dubdave

A well air condition unit should be fine I have been to many chocolate shops in Madrid Majorca Valencia some of my supplies come from spain and hope to sell hot and cold drinks as well

mikelincs

Beaurocracy and licences are your likely problems, get a gestor or lawyer who has good local council contacts, and you may be fine.

paintermujer

Nocilla/nutella goes in bocatas for merienda,colacao is a staple etc etc...........But I do find the hard chocolate bars have a different consistency than say Cadburys.More waxy?..or hard??..and its seems harder to bite into and sometimes looks shinier.I was at a friends house recently and she still had it in her cupboard.

mikelincs

The ones made for Spain and the med countries is a different recipe from the UK one, it has special ingredients added so that it will stay hard even in the temps found there, which is why it tastes so different.

cricketman

Yes, Spanish chocolate actually contains chocolate i.e. cocoa.

British chocolate is just vegetable fat and palm oils. Cadbury's is found to be repulsive by chocolate fans outside of the UK (my wife would vouch for that)

Spain has a proud history in chocolate although it didnt travel to the South very well because, well, it melts Which is why the chocolate there is often the hot kind. The Museo de chocolate in Barcelona is worth a visit

pete_l

That's true. But look in any supermarket (the ones around here are Mercandonna and Consum) and they have a very limited range, and a small amount of shelf space for actual chocolate confectionery (as opposed to "foods" with chocolate in, such as cereals and biscuits).
Compare that with yer average Tesco or Sainsbury, where an entire aisle sells chocolate in it's various forms.
So yes,while the spanish do eat some chocolate the sales volumes seem much smaller than a UK supplier might be used to.

pwwm

Sorry but am smiling at the comment they plan to sell hot and cold drinks, dont think anyone has thought about selling those before.

On another note I agree with others that the Spanish do not like UK chocolate, none of our Spanish friends do, and as already said, they dont eat much of it, as in the supermarkets have very Little on the shelves.