Motorway Toll Law Passed
Dec 12th 2011, 11:34 am
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Hi. Thanks but I don't see anywhere on that link reference or indication that it refers to bonnet height. The same criterion is is used for the trucks and they don't have bonnets. As John & Kath says axle height doesn't make sense either nor roof height. Very confusing. Is there a similar guide in Portuguese which we might see the original words used and then go to a dictionary?
Dec 12th 2011, 12:33 pm
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Hi guys, I think it might be the height from the ground to the bonnet at the front axle i.e. Class 1 is less than 1.10m, Class 2 more than 1.10m. I have a Grand Vitara 4x4 and it's 1.05m - when we get the ferry to the UK we are always in the same class as a standard car. Hope that helps.
Dec 12th 2011, 1:27 pm
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I decided to do a search of the older toll roads in Portugal and see if I could find classes of vehicles displayed on those websites as I guess the classes will be standard.
On http://www.multicard.eni.com/de_en/tolls-portugal you will see a table split into the 4 classes and you will see in the table heading 'Vehicle height from first axle'. In the text is is described:
The applicable tariff per kilometer depends on the vehicle category (four classes) which is defined by two criteria: the vehicle height measured vertically as from first axle, and the total number of axles.
Not an official site but pretty QED I think.
On http://www.multicard.eni.com/de_en/tolls-portugal you will see a table split into the 4 classes and you will see in the table heading 'Vehicle height from first axle'. In the text is is described:
The applicable tariff per kilometer depends on the vehicle category (four classes) which is defined by two criteria: the vehicle height measured vertically as from first axle, and the total number of axles.
Not an official site but pretty QED I think.
Dec 12th 2011, 2:08 pm
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Re: Motorway Toll Law Passed
I decided to do a search of the older toll roads in Portugal and see if I could find classes of vehicles displayed on those websites as I guess the classes will be standard.
On http://www.multicard.eni.com/de_en/tolls-portugal you will see a table split into the 4 classes and you will see in the table heading 'Vehicle height from first axle'. In the text is is described:
The applicable tariff per kilometer depends on the vehicle category (four classes) which is defined by two criteria: the vehicle height measured vertically as from first axle, and the total number of axles.
Not an official site but pretty QED I think.
On http://www.multicard.eni.com/de_en/tolls-portugal you will see a table split into the 4 classes and you will see in the table heading 'Vehicle height from first axle'. In the text is is described:
The applicable tariff per kilometer depends on the vehicle category (four classes) which is defined by two criteria: the vehicle height measured vertically as from first axle, and the total number of axles.
Not an official site but pretty QED I think.
Dec 12th 2011, 2:26 pm
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No. My guess would be you need a horizontal line from front to back axle centers. Then a horizontal line to skim the highest point of the roof. The distance between those lines gives you the axis height in their definition. How in god in heavens name are you supposed to be able to measure that?
Dec 12th 2011, 2:27 pm
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Re: Motorway Toll Law Passed
I decided to do a search of the older toll roads in Portugal and see if I could find classes of vehicles displayed on those websites as I guess the classes will be standard.
On http://www.multicard.eni.com/de_en/tolls-portugal you will see a table split into the 4 classes and you will see in the table heading 'Vehicle height from first axle'. In the text is is described:
The applicable tariff per kilometer depends on the vehicle category (four classes) which is defined by two criteria: the vehicle height measured vertically as from first axle, and the total number of axles.
Not an official site but pretty QED I think.
On http://www.multicard.eni.com/de_en/tolls-portugal you will see a table split into the 4 classes and you will see in the table heading 'Vehicle height from first axle'. In the text is is described:
The applicable tariff per kilometer depends on the vehicle category (four classes) which is defined by two criteria: the vehicle height measured vertically as from first axle, and the total number of axles.
Not an official site but pretty QED I think.
Dec 12th 2011, 2:40 pm
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My guess is from the axle to the highest point on the roof. I am just going to take the roofline height not the roof tent we have affixed on a permanent basis. If all wheels are the same size doesn't matter from which axle the measurement is taken.
I've got to pop round to our plot to check the battery charging so I'll take a tape measure with me and check it now.
I've got to pop round to our plot to check the battery charging so I'll take a tape measure with me and check it now.
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Dec 12th 2011, 2:59 pm
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No. My guess would be you need a horizontal line from front to back axle centers. Then a horizontal line to skim the highest point of the roof. The distance between those lines gives you the axis height in their definition. How in god in heavens name are you supposed to be able to measure that?
Dec 12th 2011, 3:02 pm
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It's curious that a car towing a caravan is class 1 whereas a motor caravan is class 2 and then a motor caravan towing even a small trailer is class 3! Silly isn't it?
Dec 12th 2011, 3:15 pm
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No. My guess would be you need a horizontal line from front to back axle centers. Then a horizontal line to skim the highest point of the roof. The distance between those lines gives you the axis height in their definition. How in god in heavens name are you supposed to be able to measure that?
So the strategy will be N125/N125 when collecting and A22/N125 when dropping off I think.
Dec 12th 2011, 3:34 pm
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My head hurts 
I think I will now avoid the Algarve after my one illegal journey
I think I will now avoid the Algarve after my one illegal journey
Dec 12th 2011, 3:36 pm
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Is this how you've measured it? As you say the class thing is all a bit bizarre, how will most people be able to determine these things especially if they are infrequent visitors?
Dec 12th 2011, 3:53 pm
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What is the problem about paying 6 euros on the toll road? I pay around that on the AP7 from Valencia to Oliva. Quiet motorway with no lorries. Great.
Dec 12th 2011, 4:27 pm
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I think that is the one but I don't think you or I will get a choice they will have a standard list of height tables and will just look up your car on that and that's what you pay.
Dec 12th 2011, 4:31 pm
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Apparently this was taken this morning at Boliqueime gantry!