More Spanish farmers ditching Olives....
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Buying local has to be so much better.... And fresher...
Ill make a note to check the origin...when I shop
Hmmm.. guacamole with my margaritas..... getting close to heaven.
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I'm still learning in my retirement!!!
Crazy... It must be so much cheaper to do this... With supermarket buying power, one would think its best to go local ....
But even with inflation crises, I'll pay a bit more for local food even in a supermarket....
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Yes, it is sad but true...Carrefour also - why they ship stuff from literally 1000s of miles away is truly strange. I would love to understand their thinking - anybody got any contacts within these organisations who can explain it?
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Because it's cheaper, or not available locally, or out of season locally, or they want more than can be supplied locally, or better quality elsewhere.
Can't think of any other reasons.
Can't think of any other reasons.
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Exactly and it's never really been different for decades. Best example is Lidl and here in Ireland I bought Catalan sausage that was cheaper here than in Spain. Sometimes it's oversupply and then it might be brands that are unknown and want cheap marketing by selling it cheap and getting the product out there. It might be cheaper to sell a shipload abroad rather than selling to individual supermarkets and so on.
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I think we should all be prepared to give up the option of having everything available 12 months a year...and let's face it - if it is not on the shelf we could just pick up what is - no strawberries - buy blueberries or whatever...and IMO all this forced growing means a big compromise in taste and quality.
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WOT! I never realised this - and truthfully I never really thought to check the origin of stuff I thought would be local!
I'm still learning in my retirement!!!
Crazy... It must be so much cheaper to do this... With supermarket buying power, one would think its best to go local ....
But even with inflation crises, I'll pay a bit more for local food even in a supermarket....
Jon
I'm still learning in my retirement!!!
Crazy... It must be so much cheaper to do this... With supermarket buying power, one would think its best to go local ....
But even with inflation crises, I'll pay a bit more for local food even in a supermarket....
Jon
I always remember our local Shropshire MP, John Biffen, who told me that a letter to an MP is worth a thousand votes.
Regarding labelling, there is usually too much writing of which a lot is useless information. But for example, Eroski sell packs of beans, lentils or garbanzos (sorry, chickpeas), whose origin is the USA. Obviously they are buying from the cheapest source, which in many cases is unsustainable. But who the hell notices? Very few people.
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I think we should all be prepared to give up the option of having everything available 12 months a year...and let's face it - if it is not on the shelf we could just pick up what is - no strawberries - buy blueberries or whatever...and IMO all this forced growing means a big compromise in taste and quality.
I mean, strawberries in January, almost certainly from Huelva and equally certainly tasteless. What's the point?
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I dont subscribe to the view that the cheapest source overseas is unsustainable, what is often unsustainable are the 'local' sources simply because of demand (as has been mentioned above) consumers are primarily to blame IMHO wanting everything on demand all year round for many products rather than accepting alternatives (again as has been mentioned above). Also local means different things to different people. For me local means locally sourced close to where I am staying / living, from a local farm or producer.
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The chances are they're making up for a shortfall in Spanish products. It has been an incredibly crappy harvest in Spain this year, the next year doesn't bode well either due to droughts, and high energy bills are causing farms to close down for good.
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Many companies dont even publish a postal address or if they do its hard to find.
He would have done, in his era carrier pidgeon was more fashionable
I dont subscribe to the view that the cheapest source overseas is unsustainable, what is often unsustainable are the 'local' sources simply because of demand (as has been mentioned above) consumers are primarily to blame IMHO wanting everything on demand all year round for many products rather than accepting alternatives (again as has been mentioned above). Also local means different things to different people. For me local means locally sourced close to where I am staying / living, from a local farm or producer.
He would have done, in his era carrier pidgeon was more fashionable
I dont subscribe to the view that the cheapest source overseas is unsustainable, what is often unsustainable are the 'local' sources simply because of demand (as has been mentioned above) consumers are primarily to blame IMHO wanting everything on demand all year round for many products rather than accepting alternatives (again as has been mentioned above). Also local means different things to different people. For me local means locally sourced close to where I am staying / living, from a local farm or producer.
John Biffen told me trhat in the 1990's; thankfully communication was more reliable than the likes of Twitter.
Yes, companies say consumers want all year round, but I bet they haven't asked them. They just provide to sell more and spread their costs.
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Re: More Spanish farmers ditching Olives....
One of our local farmers who last year replaced all the olives, oranges and nispero trees on his land was complaining because the agriculture water supplied is being cut to two days on and three off in our area.
He isn't happy because all his nice expensive Avocado trees are dropping their fruit as he cannot irrigate as much as he likes.
I only caught some of the conversation but from what was said to me, none of the other farmers gave him much sympathy.
He stormed off and they all burst out laughing..
He isn't happy because all his nice expensive Avocado trees are dropping their fruit as he cannot irrigate as much as he likes.
I only caught some of the conversation but from what was said to me, none of the other farmers gave him much sympathy.
He stormed off and they all burst out laughing..
The one that really gets me is the bananas. The Canarian variety are 3 times the cost of whatever they import from elsewhere. Maybe that's where their IVA subsidy comes from.