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Old Jun 3rd 2016, 4:25 pm
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Originally Posted by guesswork
No announcements at all

but like Yes Prime Minister it is true about the Hotel

I heard the same rumour
We have all been disappointed so often with rumours BUT this would be really great news and be a massive boost for Esuri. I shall await, with hope, for the official announcement. Any news on the golf club sale?
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Old Jun 25th 2016, 1:25 pm
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Have the golf courses been sold? Has the hotel been sold? Why is it so hard to get a straight answer?
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Old Jun 25th 2016, 5:13 pm
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Originally Posted by retireteed
Have the golf courses been sold? Has the hotel been sold? Why is it so hard to get a straight answer?
Because no-one outside any negotiating teams knows.

These things take a lot of time to negotiate, and like any deal of significance, all discussions are obviously confidential.

When any buyer is ready to talk after signing on the dotted line, when they feel its right, we will know.

I love the rumours but long experience here in this region has taught me not to hold my breath..... Or get too excited.

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Old Jul 11th 2016, 9:32 am
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I think the Madrid supreme court decision last year is a game changer as it effectively bypasses the insolvency aspect of the problem
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I think the Madrid supreme court decision last year is a game changer as it effectively bypasses the insolvency aspect of the problem
Could you explain this somewhat cryptic remark, please.
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Old Jul 11th 2016, 11:24 am
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In relation to lost deposits on off-plan Spanish property, the Madrid court held that the bank is liable with the developer. You can therefore look to the bank, instead of the developer, for any losses. Not sure this relevant to your circumstances but I hope this helps, it's a project I am working on. More info about the court decision at www.bankdepositrecovery.es under the heading Legal Remedy.

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Old Jul 11th 2016, 12:51 pm
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Originally Posted by keithBT
Does MF make an announcement online when they agree a sale of major inventory like the hotel OR do we wait for whispers and rumours???????????
It is not any longer the affair of MF the sales of major assets is being conducted on behalf of the Liquidator by Knight Frank Spain if we hear anything it will be from one of them but I doubt very much they will be in a hurry or that they will sing it from the rooftops. It might slide out in the business pages of one of the serious Spanish papers.
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Old Jul 11th 2016, 2:02 pm
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I see that the hotel plots are on offer again. This time the one by the golf club is up at €600,000, the one nearer the river for €120,000 and the one near Las Colinas for €42,000. Lots of individual plots for less than €30,000. Lots of apartments, mainly on Las Colinas for less than about €60,000.
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Old Jul 11th 2016, 2:16 pm
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I've tried all manner of online searches seeking info on whether the half built hotel was actually sold to Marriott grupo and so far de nada. Zilch anywhere.
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Old Jul 11th 2016, 4:05 pm
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I've tried all manner of online searches seeking info on whether the half built hotel was actually sold to Marriott grupo and so far de nada. Zilch anywhere.
Well, I think that the answer must be 'no' as it now being advertised fork. €600,.000.
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Old Jul 11th 2016, 5:25 pm
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Seems like a lot of real estate for only 600k. I thought it would be a few mil !!!!
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Old Jul 12th 2016, 5:54 am
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Originally Posted by keithBT
Seems like a lot of real estate for only 600k. I thought it would be a few mil !!!!
I suspect its priced right as there must be a huge cost to first fix up all the damage caused by an open building for so many years - structural integrity checks and making all that good and only then finishing it off, may mean that the overall bill for completion wont be far off the price of a new build.

Just a thought, I'm no civil engineer. EsuriJohn will know better

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Old Jul 14th 2016, 3:49 pm
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I just checked the PDF files describing each hotel, and the outstanding taxes and fees to be paid by the new buyer are very high!
The unfinished hotel comes to almost 1,4 million€ for example.

I was very disappointed by the recent meeting with the vice mayor, it seems as if they have no clear strategy for Costa Esuri.
And he did not bother to mention the Waterpark project at all, which had official EU financial support...
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Old Sep 20th 2016, 3:21 pm
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any news about the Hotel ?

The 12th of September finished the 2nd or 3rd attempted sale.

I hope we receive definitely good news !

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Old Sep 20th 2016, 4:41 pm
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