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VEDShappy Dec 25th 2020 8:05 pm

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You did answer, thanks.

bob_bob Dec 27th 2020 1:16 am

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https://i.imgur.com/RdxyED2.jpg

thegolfer Dec 27th 2020 5:16 am

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Were any of the above vaccines created from scratch and administered to humans within a 9 month timeframe?

Fred James Dec 27th 2020 9:33 am

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No way!

jimenato Dec 27th 2020 8:56 pm

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Unsurprisingly we've managed to improve few things a bit in the centuries since Jenner and Pasteur.

Here is an article explaining how these vaccines were brought to use so quickly


The speed at which effective Covid-19 vaccines have come through to authorisation has caused surprise. Compared with previous vaccines, the process has been very fast and so, naturally, people are asking how can it have happened without some kind of compromise on standards and care. Explaining it all as simply a result of the wonders of the latest scientific advances seems vague. So how has it actually come about? In reality, there are at least 10 reasons: some are about good planning, some good science and some just good luck.

missile Dec 27th 2020 9:18 pm

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Originally Posted by jimenato (Post 12950501)
Unsurprisingly we've managed to improve few things a bit in the centuries since Jenner and Pasteur.

Here is an article explaining how these vaccines were brought to use so quickly

Nice one. :goodpost:

thegolfer Dec 27th 2020 9:53 pm

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Originally Posted by jimenato (Post 12950501)
Unsurprisingly we've managed to improve few things a bit in the centuries since Jenner and Pasteur.

Here is an article explaining how these vaccines were brought to use so quickly

So why NO truly effective HIV/Aids Vaccine?

jimenato Dec 27th 2020 10:06 pm

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Originally Posted by thegolfer (Post 12950519)
So why NO truly effective HIV/Aids Vaccine?

If by 'truly' you mean 'completely' - no vaccine is completely effective.

thegolfer Dec 27th 2020 10:35 pm

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Originally Posted by jimenato (Post 12950522)
If by 'truly' you mean 'completely' - no vaccine is completely effective.

OK Lest make it simple for you.........Why then is there no HIV/Aids Vaccine seeing as you say " Unsurprisingly we've managed to improve few things a bit in the centuries since Jenner and Pasteur."

jimenato Dec 27th 2020 10:57 pm

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Originally Posted by thegolfer (Post 12950530)
OK Lest make it simple for you.........Why then is there no HIV/Aids Vaccine seeing as you say " Unsurprisingly we've managed to improve few things a bit in the centuries since Jenner and Pasteur."

Here's something that might help with that


It has been difficult to develop a vaccine against HIV for several reasons. Whereas most other vaccines work by teaching the adaptive part of the immune system to produce antibodies that clear an infection, antibodies are unable to clear HIV infection. This is because HIV mutates very rapidly, evading antibodies.

bob_bob Dec 28th 2020 4:25 am

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Originally Posted by thegolfer (Post 12950361)
Were any of the above vaccines created from scratch and administered to humans within a 9 month timeframe?

Has some much money, so many scientists worldwide ever focused on a vaccine like this before ? No. I do wish people would look for and at facts rather than believe their mates or some idiot on social media. My wife is 62, left retirement and went back into Nursing in March, our daughter is a charge Nurse and both had had their first jabs. Are they worried? NO. Why? because they looked at the facts/science.

Go work a 12 hour shift on a hot ward and see how you feel about taking the vaccine after. Better still, don't wear a mask and tell us how you feel two weeks later.

VFR Dec 29th 2020 2:12 am

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Originally Posted by bob_bob (Post 12950658)
Has some much money, so many scientists worldwide ever focused on a vaccine like this before ? No. I do wish people would look for and at facts rather than believe their mates or some idiot on social media. My wife is 62, left retirement and went back into Nursing in March, our daughter is a charge Nurse and both had had their first jabs. Are they worried? NO. Why? because they looked at the facts/science.

Go work a 12 hour shift on a hot ward and see how you feel about taking the vaccine after. Better still, don't wear a mask and tell us how you feel two weeks later.

Bob was it not peer pressure or being obliged to ? (fancy it was)

Anyway maybe take note from 10.30min in as this has been pointed out in other places by other people .....................


Chipmonk Dec 29th 2020 2:54 am

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-covid-vaccine

bob_bob Dec 29th 2020 4:29 am

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Originally Posted by VFR (Post 12950986)
Bob was it not peer pressure or being obliged to ? (fancy it was)

Anyway maybe take note from 10.30min in as this has been pointed out in other places by other people .....................

https://youtu.be/Tp3j5uT9u4U?t=51

And you listen to these people?

You stick with them, I'll stick with facts.

VEDShappy Dec 29th 2020 4:32 am

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Originally Posted by missile (Post 12950508)
Nice one. :goodpost:

As posted previously,


"Please help me with this.
Does the vaccine currently used in the UK prevent someone catching the virus?
Does it prevent someone passing on the virus?

As I've said, I'm a simple soul so a yes, or no, will do."


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