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Re: Majority of Spaniards will not....
Originally Posted by VEDShappy
(Post 12949199)
I'm not a scientist, never claimed to be.
I don't pretend to know all the answers and I certainly don't believe all that I'm told, unlike some. This is just one example, perhaps you'd be kind enough to explain how my understanding is flawed. https://www.google.com/amp/s/fivethi...ct-others/amp/ If you wear a mask and observe social distancing, you are unlikely to become infected or infect others. If you get vaccinated, you are unlikely to become infected or infect others. If you become infected and recover, you are unlikely to become infected again or infect others. Just as with the flu or any other vaccine, it may not be effective for all and some may experience a reaction. Vaccination is not a magic bullet. It will not protect everyone, but it will be effective for the majority of recipients. Much safer than doing nothing. |
Re: Majority of Spaniards will not....
The most important words in your reply are in bold.
I'm still left wondering how my understanding is flawed. |
Re: Majority of Spaniards will not....
Originally Posted by thegolfer
(Post 12949269)
That gave me a chuckle Si, even you can see that your statement is nonsensical ....but fair play you're a trier
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Re: Majority of Spaniards will not....
Originally Posted by VEDShappy
(Post 12949253)
The most important words in your reply are in bold.
I'm still left wondering how my understanding is flawed. |
Re: Majority of Spaniards will not....
Originally Posted by missile
(Post 12949305)
The conclusion you made is not supported by that article.
Does the vaccine currently used in the UK prevent someone catching the virus? Does it prevent someone passing on the virus? As I've said, I'm a simple soul so a yes, or no, will do. |
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Basically it looks like in Spain they will record people who refuse vaccination.
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Re: Majority of Spaniards will not....
Originally Posted by VEDShappy
(Post 12949336)
Please help me with this.
Does the vaccine currently used in the UK prevent someone catching the virus? Does it prevent someone passing on the virus? As I've said, I'm a simple soul so a yes, or no, will do. Whether or not it stops or inhibits infection being passed on is not yet known as far as I am aware. |
Re: Majority of Spaniards will not....
Originally Posted by Chipmonk
(Post 12949387)
Basically it looks like in Spain they will record people who refuse vaccination.
Rosemary |
Re: Majority of Spaniards will not....
You are right Rosemary but just as the modelo 720 is just a device to protect against money laundering it is easily useable to keep tabs on what you do with your foreign assets. I have no doubt that if there are problems ahead with vaccine efficiency the government will use information they have to carry through any policy they might feel necessary to protect its citizens
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As Mark Twain said 'The only two certainties in life are death and taxes.
In the meantime:- https://english.elpais.com/spanish_n...s-vaccine.html |
Re: Majority of Spaniards will not....
Originally Posted by jimenato
(Post 12949395)
It is known to lessen the effect of the disease.
Whether or not it stops or inhibits infection being passed on is not yet known as far as I am aware. |
Re: Majority of Spaniards will not....
Originally Posted by thegolfer
(Post 12949426)
Well in your previous posts you insinuate that it stops you becoming infectious....:rolleyes:
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Re: Majority of Spaniards will not....
Originally Posted by Rosemary
(Post 12949396)
Very normal information gathering practice in order to gain data for further advertising campaigns to be more effective.
Rosemary No they will know exactly how many have taken up the offer so no need to have an ID parade (I exaggerate a tad) |
Re: Majority of Spaniards will not....
Originally Posted by VFR
(Post 12949463)
Normal .......... ?
No they will know exactly how many have taken up the offer so no need to have an ID parade (I exaggerate a tad) Rosemary |
Re: Majority of Spaniards will not....
Originally Posted by thegolfer
(Post 12949480)
Oh but you do
Where? |
Re: Majority of Spaniards will not....
Happy Christmas members and time will tell over this issue.
Those who want it get it of course & those who distrust those in charge will wait until the dust settles to get a better picture (such is life) |
Re: Majority of Spaniards will not....
Originally Posted by thegolfer
(Post 12949577)
Still and just amused by your continual use of emoji's ......are you fourteen or just very sad and seek attention.
Where did I imply that vaccination would stop you being infectious? |
Re: Majority of Spaniards will not....
Originally Posted by jimenato
(Post 12949596)
...from one who continually uses.:lol:
Where did I imply that vaccination would stop you being infectious? |
Re: Majority of Spaniards will not....
OK - well done - you've bored me into submission.
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Re: Majority of Spaniards will not....
Enough of this stupid arguing. Just try and enjoy Xmas and shut up!
Any further posts like this will be deleted. |
Re: Majority of Spaniards will not....
Originally Posted by Fred James
(Post 12949656)
Enough of this stupid arguing. Just try and enjoy Xmas and shut up!
Any further posts like this will be deleted. |
Re: Majority of Spaniards will not....
Originally Posted by Rosemary
(Post 12949666)
:amen:
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Re: Majority of Spaniards will not....
Originally Posted by Rosemary
(Post 12949666)
:amen:
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Re: Majority of Spaniards will not....
Originally Posted by VEDShappy
(Post 12949336)
Please help me with this.
Does the vaccine currently used in the UK prevent someone catching the virus? Does it prevent someone passing on the virus? As I've said, I'm a simple soul so a yes, or no, will do. |
Re: Majority of Spaniards will not....
Originally Posted by VEDShappy
(Post 12949817)
"No answer was the stern reply".
Not yet known as far as I am aware. |
Re: Majority of Spaniards will not....
You did answer, thanks.
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Were any of the above vaccines created from scratch and administered to humans within a 9 month timeframe?
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Re: Majority of Spaniards will not....
No way!
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Re: Majority of Spaniards will not....
Unsurprisingly we've managed to improve few things a bit in the centuries since Jenner and Pasteur.
Here is an article explaining how these vaccines were brought to use so quickly The speed at which effective Covid-19 vaccines have come through to authorisation has caused surprise. Compared with previous vaccines, the process has been very fast and so, naturally, people are asking how can it have happened without some kind of compromise on standards and care. Explaining it all as simply a result of the wonders of the latest scientific advances seems vague. So how has it actually come about? In reality, there are at least 10 reasons: some are about good planning, some good science and some just good luck. |
Re: Majority of Spaniards will not....
Originally Posted by jimenato
(Post 12950501)
Unsurprisingly we've managed to improve few things a bit in the centuries since Jenner and Pasteur.
Here is an article explaining how these vaccines were brought to use so quickly |
Re: Majority of Spaniards will not....
Originally Posted by jimenato
(Post 12950501)
Unsurprisingly we've managed to improve few things a bit in the centuries since Jenner and Pasteur.
Here is an article explaining how these vaccines were brought to use so quickly |
Re: Majority of Spaniards will not....
Originally Posted by thegolfer
(Post 12950519)
So why NO truly effective HIV/Aids Vaccine?
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Re: Majority of Spaniards will not....
Originally Posted by jimenato
(Post 12950522)
If by 'truly' you mean 'completely' - no vaccine is completely effective.
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Re: Majority of Spaniards will not....
Originally Posted by thegolfer
(Post 12950530)
OK Lest make it simple for you.........Why then is there no HIV/Aids Vaccine seeing as you say " Unsurprisingly we've managed to improve few things a bit in the centuries since Jenner and Pasteur."
It has been difficult to develop a vaccine against HIV for several reasons. Whereas most other vaccines work by teaching the adaptive part of the immune system to produce antibodies that clear an infection, antibodies are unable to clear HIV infection. This is because HIV mutates very rapidly, evading antibodies. |
Re: Majority of Spaniards will not....
Originally Posted by thegolfer
(Post 12950361)
Were any of the above vaccines created from scratch and administered to humans within a 9 month timeframe?
Go work a 12 hour shift on a hot ward and see how you feel about taking the vaccine after. Better still, don't wear a mask and tell us how you feel two weeks later. |
Re: Majority of Spaniards will not....
Originally Posted by bob_bob
(Post 12950658)
Has some much money, so many scientists worldwide ever focused on a vaccine like this before ? No. I do wish people would look for and at facts rather than believe their mates or some idiot on social media. My wife is 62, left retirement and went back into Nursing in March, our daughter is a charge Nurse and both had had their first jabs. Are they worried? NO. Why? because they looked at the facts/science.
Go work a 12 hour shift on a hot ward and see how you feel about taking the vaccine after. Better still, don't wear a mask and tell us how you feel two weeks later. Anyway maybe take note from 10.30min in as this has been pointed out in other places by other people ..................... |
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Re: Majority of Spaniards will not....
Originally Posted by VFR
(Post 12950986)
Bob was it not peer pressure or being obliged to ? (fancy it was)
Anyway maybe take note from 10.30min in as this has been pointed out in other places by other people ..................... https://youtu.be/Tp3j5uT9u4U?t=51 You stick with them, I'll stick with facts. |
Re: Majority of Spaniards will not....
Originally Posted by missile
(Post 12950508)
Nice one. :goodpost:
"Please help me with this. Does the vaccine currently used in the UK prevent someone catching the virus? Does it prevent someone passing on the virus? As I've said, I'm a simple soul so a yes, or no, will do." |
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