Casa Santo Estevo

This may affect some of your travel plans this winter.
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle4351005.ece

El Capitan

Therein lies the difference between an airline who tries to provide a reliable transport service to its customers and the low-cost business model which dictates that if it is cheaper to cancel a flight and let down potential passengers, leaving them with little option after you have driven out the "service orientated" airlines, so be it. Ryanair has no customer orientation and there was a time they would not have been allowed to get away with this attitude. It is cheaper for them to cancel a flight and refund all tickets than to fly the plane at sub-optimal profit.

Casa Santo Estevo

We read the other day that in order to keep their slots at Heathrow BMI were/are willing to, flying empty aircraft. They done this last year at Norwich.
But is this to help the customer or not? A customer cannot fly in the empty planes but it will help BMI fly a schedule in peak seasons.
In another article on the same newspaper O'Leary says that he hopes some of his rivals will go bust due to the oil crisis. he calls them "crappy competitors". If they are crap what is Ryanair?

andyrich666

Id have to disagree with this, Ryanair gives warning of cancelled flights and in the situation they are in I cant blame them

Other airlines ground flights without notice if they feel they can not make it profitable

Take a read of this quite interesting

http://euclaim.co.uk/Publication.asp..._face_of_truth

El Capitan

Article mentions XL, another airline pretty infamous for not delivering what was promised. As is flyglobespan, which is well documented for letting passengers down. The truth however is that "no frills" has become to mean the "low cost business model" which is epitomised by Ryanair. Look how they pull out of an airport who will not subsidise their airport fees.

Very few airlines now exist who provide a reliable (rarely 100%) and responsible schedule. Airlines like Ryanair with their aggressive business attitude cream off enough business from the others to prejudice the whole bloody lot of them. At least whenever you are on a IATA airline and they cancel they normally get you on an alternative flight somehow.

bil

Who was it that said

There is nothing made or done that cannot be made a little bit cheaper and a little bit worse, and those people for whom price is the only consideration, they are this man's lawful prey.

Ryanair is cheap. That's what it says on the tin.

jurdyr

there plane a tin can OMG

bil

Technically, yes.

El Capitan

Technically no, not a lot of Sn plated Fe in a plane, more Al and Mg and loads of special alloys plus quite a bit of Cd but this could be nit picking.

bil

You? Knit picking? Can such things be?

Casa Santo Estevo

Kaptin Knick.pit?

poshnbucks

Spanair and Ryanair give details of their cutbacks in Spain


Both airlines are keeping planes on the tarmac and have announced cut backs at Spanish airports.
The high price of aviation fuel has lead to a cut back in operations in Spain from two low-cost airlines.

Spanair has decided that only Madrid and Barcelona will be future bases for its flights. As the airline outlines planned cutbacks as part of a viability plan in these days of high oil prices, it has become clear that the other bases of Spanair at Palma, Málaga, Tenerife, Bilbao and Las Palmas de Gran Canaria, will all lose that category. It means a centralisation of pilots, cabin staff and mechanics in the company.

Staff cuts of 1,100, some 29% of the workforce were announced earlier this week. The airline is also going to leave nine of its planes on the ground during September and October.

The unions in Spanair have asked the company that the redundancies that they want to make take the form of early retirement and for those workers who want to leave. They warn that they will start demonstrations of they detect any other company interest apart than the future viability of the company.

Ryanair has also given details of its cutbacks because of the increased fuel prices and the suspension of their services in Palma and Valencia as part of a 14% cutback in flights. Flights to another five Spanish destinations are also set to be suspended between November 4 and December 19.

Ryanair Chairman, Michael O’Leary, said that airport charges and the massive increase facing the company in fuel prices made it more profitable for Ryanair to leave planes on the ground during the time.

jurdyr

sorry poss did it at 3 pm what you sayed but you missed some off the news thanks to FMPLUS.ES/news
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=549427

digdug

so, are we saying that ryanair has suspended all flights to/from valencia airport, or between nov 4th and dec 19th?
thats not good for us, as val airports just 20mins away and the only budget flying directly to ireland. bah.

jurdyr

well we only real know in Sept when new schedule (08/09) is out but you will have few more airport to used aswell , many be some traveling to do to get to you home
just hope that this will not lead on to next year with more costs less flights due fuels cost and landing charges