Not to mention those Labour and Tory MPs behind bars eh and another two been just caught red handed.

So you agree then that the claim you made that the media ( post 13 ) is inventing anti UKIP stories is wrong?
They have no need to UKIP provides more than enough to keep us all laughing.

Try reading post 12.

Where is your proof ,,

Where are these made up anti UKiP stories.

Links please.

Staring you in the face if you watch BBC news on a regular basis.
Even that very day they were interrogating a UKIP official almost Gestapo style claiming she had been sacked and she was unhappy with the situation.
Once again a totally false accusation and more mud throwing.
The lady in question made it very clear that she was very happy with UKIP, they had her full support and far from losing her job she had simply completed her contract on the date agreed and was moving on to another dept.

I thought this thread was going to be about the mess Labour are in, but anything to divert attention eh.

Lets compare the mess labour is in and that of ukip.

Milliband after his failure at the polls says he will resign and does.
Farage after his failure at the polls says he will resign does then changes his mind.
Who kept his word ?.
who among labour MPs is questioning or even rejecting party policy.
What is the only UKIP MP saying about the leadership and the direction the party is going in.
How many senior labour officials have been sacked for daring to disagree with the party ( one mans ) policy.

Labour is doing the right thing keeping a low profile ,the attention Ukip is getting is demonstrating to the vast majority of the electorate who did not vote for them that they made the right decision.

UKIP is back on the rails going full steam ahead, if it was ever off them in the first place.

Labour is still in total disarray, looking to have little choice but to select another Union man.
Also probably lost their easy Scottish seats for ever, one way or another, with many members believing they're unlikely ever to govern again.

Lib dems almost wiped out, also in total disarray with not a clue where to go next.

Strange absolutely nothing in the news an quality press about UKIP.

If it back on the rails its a train to nowhere with the mad driver who cannot make his mind from one day to another at the controls .No fireman becsuse he keeps on sacking them.

No media news is good news for UKIP.
They've obviously run out of crap to throw and it's had zilch effect anyway.

Meanwhile we all owe a great debt of gratitude to UKIP for what they have achieved in helping bring about this referendum.

It's a win, win situation now either way for the UK.

On the one hand it gives Cameron the opportunity to gain major concessions and stay in.

If not then I think the majority of the population will consider we're far better off out of it.


Oh by the way this thread is meant to be about the Labour Party, though I can well understand you wanting to create a diversion and move the goalpost again as is your normal way.

I was responding to YOUR reference to UKIP.

If it a thread about labour why did you mention UKiP.

The only headlines today regarding labour is that they too now support the referendum which is good news with tbe two largest parties plus the SNP and the libs advocating a YES vote.

Yes, labour had little choice but do a much belated u turn.

Interesting that the pro parties are blindly advocating staying in regardless of how bad the terms may be.

That is because it is still better for the UK to stay in.
Even the Torygraph says that.

Well of course if EMR says so.

Thing is at least as many people think we're better out of it according to latest polls.

I don't think this blind faith by the pro Euro groups is doing the renegotiating discussions any good either incl. Cameron himself.

It can only weaken his hand if the powers that be already know that he and others are going to advocate staying in regardless.

:rofl Daily Telegraph sat 23d May page 38 Viewpoint column .

A Britain which us semi detached from Europe would not have the same growth anf job creation potential we have seen in recent yearsand this needs to be recognised when we get a referendum on EU membership in 2106/7.

When even the torygraph is saying " its the economy stupid " then the move towrds a yes vote is gathering pace that even surprises me.

The last referendum came out at more than two to one in favour.

Now it's barely 50/50.

Basic maths, even you can work it out.