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Lynn R Oct 9th 2024 3:24 am

Jmplementation of EES Postponed Again
 
As had been widely predicted

Plan to fingerprint passengers on entry to EU to be delayed again | European Union | The Guardian

An idea mentioned in this article (that passengers should be able to upload biometric data via an app or another secure method, away from airports or ports) seems sensible to me, better than risking chaos with massive queues.

UKMS Oct 9th 2024 5:43 am

Re: Jmplementation of EES Postponed Again
 

Originally Posted by Lynn R (Post 13279616)
As had been widely predicted

Plan to fingerprint passengers on entry to EU to be delayed again | European Union | The Guardian

An idea mentioned in this article (that passengers should be able to upload biometric data via an app or another secure method, away from airports or ports) seems sensible to me, better than risking chaos with massive queues.

Hilarious and no surprise whatsoever ….. and the laughable part is that none of the issues being raised are a shock to anyone and could have been foreseen years ago. A gathering in a brewery springs to mind :).

EU.flag Oct 9th 2024 9:46 pm

Re: Jmplementation of EES Postponed Again
 
Poorly written headline, attention grabbing.
No delay has been officially announced and guardian is not EU body. However, EES might get delayed and if it does it will be probably to Jan 2025, just my guess.
Ideas about app are nice, but who's going to write app, who's going to link it up to EES and by when? Another idea by people who dont have to implement it.

UKMS Oct 9th 2024 10:05 pm

Re: Jmplementation of EES Postponed Again
 

Originally Posted by EU.flag (Post 13279742)
Poorly written headline, attention grabbing.
No delay has been officially announced and guardian is not EU body. However, EES might get delayed and if it does it will be probably to Jan 2025, just my guess.
Ideas about app are nice, but who's going to write app, who's going to link it up to EES and by when? Another idea by people who dont have to implement it.

it’s not just being reported by the guardian lots of EU news outlets have been reporting it over the last month. Out of interest what makes you say January ?

olivefarmer Oct 10th 2024 3:30 am

Re: Jmplementation of EES Postponed Again
 
France, Germany and Netherlands are all not ready yet.

EU.flag Oct 10th 2024 4:34 am

Re: Jmplementation of EES Postponed Again
 

Originally Posted by UKMS (Post 13279744)
it’s not just being reported by the guardian lots of EU news outlets have been reporting it over the last month. Out of interest what makes you say January ?

You are missing my post point. Unless it is reported by official EU body, its all just gossip, not a fact.
About January, well, there is zero chance switching EES in December. It will be complete disaster with christmas holidays.

EU.flag Oct 10th 2024 4:41 am

Re: Jmplementation of EES Postponed Again
 

Originally Posted by olivefarmer (Post 13279784)
France, Germany and Netherlands are all not ready yet.

Says who? It might be true, it might be false, who knows. For now, it is just rumor and gossip.
In Sep monthly EES meeting said nothing as such. We need to wait for meeting report that was held at beginning of Oct.

It could be that info leaked from Oct EES meeting.

UKMS Oct 10th 2024 5:44 am

Re: Jmplementation of EES Postponed Again
 

Originally Posted by EU.flag (Post 13279790)
Says who? It might be true, it might be false, who knows. For now, it is just rumor and gossip.
In Sep monthly EES meeting said nothing as such. We need to wait for meeting report that was held at beginning of Oct.

It could be that info leaked from Oct EES meeting.

We don’t really need to wait for anything ….. it’s a forum we can quite well discuss the many media articles, some from reputable outlets. If you don’t like rumour and gossip then don’t speculate January and add to it 😂 . If it was a forum of facts only it would be quite boring.

Lynn R Oct 10th 2024 5:48 am

Re: Jmplementation of EES Postponed Again
 

Originally Posted by EU.flag (Post 13279790)
Says who? It might be true, it might be false, who knows. For now, it is just rumor and gossip.
In Sep monthly EES meeting said nothing as such. We need to wait for meeting report that was held at beginning of Oct.

It could be that info leaked from Oct EES meeting.

So first it's just rumour and gossip but then it could be that info was leaked from the Oct EES meeting? More than a little contradictory.

DLC Oct 10th 2024 7:53 am

Re: Jmplementation of EES Postponed Again
 
EU confirms it:

EU delays (again) new electronic system for border checks, floats phased-in approach

Lynn R Oct 10th 2024 9:10 am

Re: Jmplementation of EES Postponed Again
 

Originally Posted by DLC (Post 13279811)

Well I never, so not just rumour and gossip at all. And not even a mention of January 2025.

UKMS Oct 10th 2024 9:28 am

Re: Jmplementation of EES Postponed Again
 

Originally Posted by Lynn R (Post 13279816)
Well I never, so not just rumour and gossip at all. And not even a mention of January 2025.

👏

Pollyana Oct 10th 2024 12:00 pm

Re: Jmplementation of EES Postponed Again
 

Originally Posted by Lynn R (Post 13279816)
Well I never, so not just rumour and gossip at all. And not even a mention of January 2025.

As a Brit booked to fly to Spain on November 10th I am rather relieved, I must admit!!

EU.flag Oct 10th 2024 9:19 pm

Re: Jmplementation of EES Postponed Again
 

Originally Posted by UKMS (Post 13279796)
We don’t really need to wait for anything ….. it’s a forum we can quite well discuss the many media articles, some from reputable outlets. If you don’t like rumour and gossip then don’t speculate January and add to it 😂 . If it was a forum of facts only it would be quite boring.

Well, it is your privilege to believe in gossips, fairy tales, pink elephants and so on. There is a reason tabloids sell.
I dont. When it comes to news, unless it quote reliable source, its just boring noise.

In this case, guardian provided no source for their story, poor journalism from reputable newspaper.
On contrary, FT and EuroNews delayed publishing story until they could quote official source. That is proper journalism, facts based.

DLC Oct 10th 2024 9:34 pm

Re: Jmplementation of EES Postponed Again
 

Originally Posted by EU.flag (Post 13279854)
Well, it is your privilege to believe in gossips, fairy tales, pink elephants and so on. There is a reason tabloids sell.
I dont. When it comes to news, unless it quote reliable source, its just boring noise.

In this case, guardian provided no source for their story, poor journalism from reputable newspaper.
On contrary, FT and EuroNews delayed publishing story until they could quote official source. That is proper journalism, facts based.

The Guardian a) isn't a tabloid and b) said they spoke to "EU diplomat sources" and c) got the possible future contingency plans right too. Seems pretty facts based to me.


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