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sparkyinspain Oct 12th 2009 4:45 am

ITV (MOT) overdue
 
Today, while sorting through various insurance policies etc I found that the ITV (MOT) for my (Spanish) car had expired in Feb this year.
Question is ,what should I do next?
If I take it to the ITV station for a renewal will I get a fine for using it for the last 8 months without the ITV? The car is in good condition and the insurance is up to date, it's just that I overlooked the renewal date for the ITV
Any advice greatly appreciated, thanks

jdr Oct 12th 2009 4:47 am

Re: ITV (MOT) overdue
 

Originally Posted by sparkyinspain (Post 8010686)
Today, while sorting through various insurance policies etc I found that the ITV (MOT) for my (Spanish) car had expired in Feb this year.
Question is ,what should I do next?
If I take it to the ITV station for a renewal will I get a fine for using it for the last 8 months without the ITV? The car is in good condition and the insurance is up to date, it's just that I overlooked the renewal date for the ITV
Any advice greatly appreciated, thanks

Just take it in.
But was it insured with no ITV ?

Fred James Oct 12th 2009 4:50 am

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You won't have any problem at the ITV station. You biggest risk is being stopped by the Guardia an the way to the test.

Make sure you book an appointment online at have the printout to prove it - there will then not be a problem if you are stopped.

Fred James Oct 12th 2009 4:55 am

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Originally Posted by jdr (Post 8010692)
But was it insured with no ITV ?

The insurance companies to not need sight of the ITV certificate and Linea Directa have confirmed to me that it is not a requirement of the policy to have a valid ITV.

An ITV certificate only proves that the car was roadworthy at the exact time it was tested - nothing more. The brakes could fail minutes later.

If you have an accident then the assessors and engineers will decide whether the car was roadworthy at the time and whether you were to blame if it wasn't. The ITV is meaningless in this context.

sparkyinspain Oct 12th 2009 5:11 am

Re: ITV (MOT) overdue
 
Thanks JDR & Fred for the quick replies, will take it in this week and let you know what happens

fionamw Oct 12th 2009 6:50 am

Re: ITV (MOT) overdue
 

Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 8010711)
The insurance companies to not need sight of the ITV certificate and Linea Directa have confirmed to me that it is not a requirement of the policy to have a valid ITV.

An ITV certificate only proves that the car was roadworthy at the exact time it was tested - nothing more. The brakes could fail minutes later.
If you have an accident then the assessors and engineers will decide whether the car was roadworthy at the time and whether you were to blame if it wasn't. The ITV is meaningless in this context.


Which makes me wonder why it's a requirement for UK policies, given that the circumstances are no different - the MOT proves the car was roadworthy at the time of testing, nothing else.
So would Linea Directa (& others) be ok with OP given it was an oversight or regard it as worthy of upping the premium next time round?

Casa Santo Estevo Oct 12th 2009 8:39 am

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I am surprised that you found it had run out. Did you not have a sticker to put in your windscreen? If you fail to display that then I understand that is also an offence and if not it would attract some sort of attention at a "control".

Fred James Oct 12th 2009 9:11 am

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Originally Posted by fionamw (Post 8010893)
Which makes me wonder why it's a requirement for UK policies,

It's not necessarily a condition of the policy (check the small print) - you merely need it as part of the process for taxing your car.

big wheels Oct 12th 2009 11:43 am

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Well mine runs out on Friday and there is no way that I will be able to get to the ITV station by then as there is a 3 foot deep trench right outside my garage due to the local council deciding to dig up the road to replace the drains, and there's holes everywhere :sneaky:
I'm told that everyone was advised of these works and to take their cars out before work began. But unfortunately this was the week before we arrived:(

I had a word with my neighbour and am informed that so-long as I make an appointment after the work has finished, and drive the car directly to the testing station. I'm covered.:)


It's a bloody long hot walk back from the Mercodona in the meantime though. :ohmy:

jdr Oct 12th 2009 5:47 pm

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Originally Posted by big wheels (Post 8011488)
Well mine runs out on Friday and there is no way that I will be able to get to the ITV station by then as there is a 3 foot deep trench right outside my garage due to the local council deciding to dig up the road to replace the drains, and there's holes everywhere :sneaky:
I'm told that everyone was advised of these works and to take their cars out before work began. But unfortunately this was the week before we arrived:(

I had a word with my neighbour and am informed that so-long as I make an appointment after the work has finished, and drive the car directly to the testing station. I'm covered.:)


It's a bloody long hot walk back from the Mercodona in the meantime though. :ohmy:

Maybe you need some bigger wheels to get over the trench. ;-)

ballin Oct 12th 2009 7:17 pm

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put a couple of boards down and drive over it!

big wheels Oct 12th 2009 7:31 pm

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Originally Posted by ballin (Post 8012148)
put a couple of boards down and drive over it!

I still couldn't get anywhere. There are BIG holes at each end of the street and skips everywhere. :rolleyes::D

whitelinen Oct 12th 2009 8:31 pm

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Originally Posted by big wheels (Post 8011488)


It's a bloody long hot walk back from the Mercodona in the meantime though. :ohmy:


They deliver, look online for details.

bealerDSB Oct 12th 2009 11:55 pm

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Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 8010711)
An ITV certificate only proves that the car was roadworthy at the exact time it was tested - nothing more. The brakes could fail minutes later.

British MOT is only valid at time of testing also.
DSB.

lynnxa Oct 12th 2009 11:58 pm

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Originally Posted by whitelinen (Post 8012279)
They deliver, look online for details.

and their delivery service is really efficient:thumbup::thumbup:

Lionda Oct 13th 2009 1:31 am

Re: ITV (MOT) overdue
 

Originally Posted by Casa Santo Estevo (Post 8011108)
I am surprised that you found it had run out. Did you not have a sticker to put in your windscreen? If you fail to display that then I understand that is also an offence and if not it would attract some sort of attention at a "control".

The sticker shows the year the ITV is valid until but not the date for renewal

bealerDSB Oct 13th 2009 1:36 am

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Originally Posted by Lionda (Post 8012912)
The sticker shows the year the ITV is valid until but not the date for renewal

Forgive me - Is not that the same detail in one ?

Date Valid Until
but not
Date for Renewal

Surely it's valid until is when the renewal is also?
Or is there a grace period :rofl:

DSB.

lynnxa Oct 13th 2009 1:47 am

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Originally Posted by bealerDSB (Post 8012924)
Forgive me - Is not that the same detail in one ?

Date Valid Until
but not
Date for Renewal

Surely it's valid until is when the renewal is also?
Or is there a grace period :rofl:

DSB.

I think she means the sticker shows the year but no specific date

so if the OP forgot which month.........................................

snikpoh Oct 13th 2009 1:52 am

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Originally Posted by lynnxa (Post 8012949)
I think she means the sticker shows the year but no specific date

so if the OP forgot which month.........................................

It actually shows the year AND the month. there's a hole punched in the appropriate month.

lynnxa Oct 13th 2009 1:53 am

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Originally Posted by snikpoh (Post 8012966)
It actually shows the year AND the month. there's a hole punched in the appropriate month.

really?

can't drive - no car - had no idea!!!


maybe the OP needs new specs?




giving the benefit of the doubt............................

jdr Oct 13th 2009 4:28 am

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As snikpoh says, and it is an offence not to display it in the windscreen even if the ITV is valid.

Lionda Oct 13th 2009 5:02 am

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Originally Posted by snikpoh (Post 8012966)
It actually shows the year AND the month. there's a hole punched in the appropriate month.

Really...well it isn't as obvious as the year which is shown in large numbers. I will check the next time I go outside to the car :)

valenciatim Oct 13th 2009 5:17 am

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It shows the month and the year (the month is shown by a punched hole), but it is NOT a requirement to display it according to the ITV centre and also an officer ocf the Guardia Civil that I asked.

Nige Oct 13th 2009 5:32 am

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hmmm not a requirement....... another little quandary in Spain....so the little sticker is not really a little sticker at all....mmmm ... why did they bother to make it self adhesive ? now if i try to take it off I am going to destroy it. so will leave it on.
if I try to take it off the police are sure to change the rules.

helpneededplease Oct 13th 2009 5:41 am

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Hi Everyone, This has got me thinking how do you know when it its due if you don't have a sticker as the car was less than 4 years old but now is 5 years old does it tell you on your papers when it should be?

Also where can you book an appointment online?

Thanks for any help:)

helpneededplease Oct 13th 2009 6:33 am

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its ok you can ignore me I have found it on the car documents.

Lionda Oct 13th 2009 6:37 am

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Originally Posted by helpneededplease (Post 8013589)
its ok you can ignore me I have found it on the car documents.

Be prepared for a long wait, we had a 3 hour wait in a queue even though we were booked in and it was 30+ degrees :thumbdown: The ITV station in Benidorm is also for other surrounding areas, including Calpe :blink:

helpneededplease Oct 13th 2009 6:45 am

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sorry to hear that. Luckily I bought the car 2nd hand and the person before me has done this in 08 so not due until 2010 so happy days. needed to check as selling the car now but want to make sure everything was in order with it.:)

Casa Santo Estevo Oct 13th 2009 9:16 pm

Re: ITV (MOT) overdue
 

Originally Posted by valenciatim (Post 8013418)
It shows the month and the year (the month is shown by a punched hole), but it is NOT a requirement to display it according to the ITV centre and also an officer ocf the Guardia Civil that I asked.


Hopefully you got that in writing so that you can show the GC that fines you for not displaying it.
When I imported the car they ITV station showed me exactly what to do and where the location of the sicker should be on the windscreen.
Personally I would prefer to display it then I know for sure that I cannot be fined for not doing it.
Can anybody else make an appointment on line? It saves all the queuing

fionamw Oct 13th 2009 9:31 pm

Re: ITV (MOT) overdue
 

Originally Posted by Casa Santo Estevo (Post 8015118)
Hopefully you got that in writing so that you can show the GC that fines you for not displaying it.
When I imported the car they ITV station showed me exactly what to do and where the location of the sicker should be on the windscreen.
Personally I would prefer to display it then I know for sure that I cannot be fined for not doing it.
Can anybody else make an appointment on line? It saves all the queuing

I phoned & made an appointment (Antequera, quite a new ITV station by the looks of it), didn´t make any difference to still having to wait to hand in the paperwork then wait to hear the matricula called out by tannoy then queue behind all the other cars... not hours, though, thankfully:eek:

Casa Santo Estevo Oct 14th 2009 2:09 am

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Originally Posted by fionamw (Post 8015146)
I phoned & made an appointment (Antequera, quite a new ITV station by the looks of it), didn´t make any difference to still having to wait to hand in the paperwork then wait to hear the matricula called out by tannoy then queue behind all the other cars... not hours, though, thankfully:eek:

I understand that these ITV stations are run on a contract basis i.e. a private company. So things where we all live are going to be different.
I have used the one in Monforte (Galicia) and had reports of the one in Lugo and they are both quick with the turn round. You turn up hand over the docs and your money. They in turn look you up to see what time you are booked. Hand you a car with the time on it. Just go to the entry point of the shed with your card on the windscreen. They call you forward; there is no pushing in the queue because if you are at the front with a later time than you has to wait.
For retests just turn up show the man your docs and he gets fits you in between others. No retest fee if you are within (I think 20 days) and they only test the part that you failed on.
It does not sound such a pleasant experience for you Fiona.

fionamw Oct 14th 2009 4:24 am

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Originally Posted by Casa Santo Estevo (Post 8015917)
I understand that these ITV stations are run on a contract basis i.e. a private company. So things where we all live are going to be different.
I have used the one in Monforte (Galicia) and had reports of the one in Lugo and they are both quick with the turn round. You turn up hand over the docs and your money. They in turn look you up to see what time you are booked. Hand you a car with the time on it. Just go to the entry point of the shed with your card on the windscreen. They call you forward; there is no pushing in the queue because if you are at the front with a later time than you has to wait.
For retests just turn up show the man your docs and he gets fits you in between others. No retest fee if you are within (I think 20 days) and they only test the part that you failed on.
It does not sound such a pleasant experience for you Fiona.

I didn't think it was too bad, all things considered - thorough, relatively efficient (apart from waiting to get the jefe to sign my papers off after having a bit of a nightmare with a post-installed capota etc, but that's another story!) and far more modern than any MOT station I've been to in the UK. Just mentioned the wait because it was nowhere near as bad as someone else's who mentioned hours.:)

Casa Santo Estevo Oct 14th 2009 5:24 am

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Originally Posted by fionamw (Post 8016223)
I didn't think it was too bad, all things considered - thorough, relatively efficient (apart from waiting to get the jefe to sign my papers off after having a bit of a nightmare with a post-installed capota etc, but that's another story!) and far more modern than any MOT station I've been to in the UK. Just mentioned the wait because it was nowhere near as bad as someone else's who mentioned hours.:)


Some folks like to prrrooooloooonggggg things!

HBG Oct 14th 2009 6:30 am

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I must once again extol the virtues of living in a built up area. There are several ITV stations within a few minutes drive and they are not all the same. I need to tread carefully here, but some are not as strict as others, and I’m not going to mention names here.

If in doubt, as the OP seems to be, there are friendly Spanish mechanics who weave their magic on your old banger and guarantee the ITV, at a small extra price, of course.

Terrible, isn’t it? But not as bad as getting an MOT sent through the post from the UK.

sparkyinspain Oct 15th 2009 5:04 am

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Update,

Took car in foe ITV yesterday, and it failed, but the good news is that no-one seemrd to care about the old ITV being out of date by 8 months.

It failed on a brake flexilbe hose needing replacing and that it had a tow bar fitted which was not on their documentation, even though the tow bar was on the car when I bought it, and last time I took it for the ITV there was no mention of it. As I've never used I decided the easy answer is to remove it completely, and hope that it will be OK. Should get the car back tomorrow and take it for a re-test.

Sign in the ITV station states that if the vehicle is returned for a re-test within 6 days then you will not have to pay the fee.

Lionda Oct 15th 2009 5:24 am

Re: ITV (MOT) overdue
 

Originally Posted by sparkyinspain (Post 8019308)
Update,

Took car in foe ITV yesterday, and it failed, but the good news is that no-one seemrd to care about the old ITV being out of date by 8 months.

It failed on a brake flexilbe hose needing replacing and that it had a tow bar fitted which was not on their documentation, even though the tow bar was on the car when I bought it, and last time I took it for the ITV there was no mention of it. As I've never used I decided the easy answer is to remove it completely, and hope that it will be OK. Should get the car back tomorrow and take it for a re-test.

Sign in the ITV station states that if the vehicle is returned for a re-test within 6 days then you will not have to pay the fee.

This isn't the norm though, the one we used charged for the re-test after only 2 days £20 euro :(:thumbdown:

fionamw Oct 15th 2009 6:24 am

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Originally Posted by Lionda (Post 8019355)
This isn't the norm though, the one we used charged for the re-test after only 2 days £20 euro :(:thumbdown:

Maybe it boils down to what someone said earlier about them being private businesses; not as standardised as MOTs UK-style. I didn't have to pay for a re-test.

VFR Oct 15th 2009 8:44 am

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Originally Posted by HBG (Post 8016543)
I must once again extol the virtues of living in a built up area. There are several ITV stations within a few minutes drive and they are not all the same. I need to tread carefully here, but some are not as strict as others, and I’m not going to mention names here.

If in doubt, as the OP seems to be, there are friendly Spanish mechanics who weave their magic on your old banger and guarantee the ITV, at a small extra price, of course.

Terrible, isn’t it? But not as bad as getting an MOT sent through the post from the UK.

You know Darren as well then ;)

Brian

HBG Oct 15th 2009 9:10 am

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I'm keeping stumm.

Hondon Rock n Roll Oct 15th 2009 9:30 am

Re: ITV (MOT) overdue
 

Originally Posted by Lionda (Post 8019355)
This isn't the norm though, the one we used charged for the re-test after only 2 days £20 euro :(:thumbdown:

Same here, I had to pay around €21 for a re-test 3 days later.


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