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pjr Jan 24th 2012 7:22 am

Its time for me to move on !
 
Hi . Its time for me to move to a nice warm climate and take on new challenges, maybe around the Alicante area or further away eg. the canaries .Or any good ideas of areas ?. My main field of work would be in sand/grit blasting or doing welding repairs,on a self employed basis. I do not need to earn a fortune as I have decent rental income in the uk .Regards to all: :D

Rosemary Jan 24th 2012 8:33 am

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As Concierge for the Spanish section of BE I would like to say hello and welcome.

BE is a very large expat website, so if you have problems finding your way around we have concierges who will try to direct you. The moderators for the Spanish forums are Mitzyboy and Fred James, moderators are there to ensure that the site runs smoothly within the rules of BE. Problems and complaints should always be addressed to a moderador who will look into the matter and deal with it efficiently and fairly. Our members who post in the Spain Forums are friendly and helpful with a wealth of knowledge of the issues of living in Spain. At the top of the page you will find a quirkily named thread called Free Beer which is full of important and useful information. Hope you enjoy your time participating in the forums.

So glad that you have said that you do not need to earn a fortune because to be perfectly honest with you Spain is having huge difficulties at present. Spanish people are finding it extremely hard to find work so anyone from other countries need to have excellent Spanish and be in the right place at the right time.

Please let me know if you need any further help.

Rosemary

jojojojojo Jan 24th 2012 8:56 am

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Originally Posted by pjr (Post 9862836)
Hi . Its time for me to move to a nice warm climate and take on new challenges, maybe around the Alicante area or further away eg. the canaries .Or any good ideas of areas ?. My main field of work would be in sand/grit blasting or doing welding repairs,on a self employed basis. I do not need to earn a fortune as I have decent rental income in the uk .Regards to all: :D


The work situation is bad in Spain and if you're self employed/autonomo you have to pay approx 250€ a month regardless of any earnings. But that said, if its just you, with no commitments or financial ties and you're getting enough rent to cover your expenses in Spain you might be able to get by???!!!! I guess it depends on how much your rent will provide you with

Jo xxx

pjr Jan 24th 2012 10:11 am

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hi..I do have a sufficient uk income. I just want to do something different with my life. Do not want to work 5 days a week any more but i need to do something to keep myself sane and not get bored. Its the old story you know kids grown up . my partner is a qualified primary school teacher and she is starting to feel the same as me. I can turn my hand to most things .I does not have to be sand blasting or welding , its that the sand blasting was a very good number to be in. :-)

jojojojojo Jan 24th 2012 10:30 am

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Originally Posted by pjr (Post 9863246)
hi..I do have a sufficient uk income. I just want to do something different with my life. Do not want to work 5 days a week any more but i need to do something to keep myself sane and not get bored. Its the old story you know kids grown up . my partner is a qualified primary school teacher and she is starting to feel the same as me. I can turn my hand to most things .I does not have to be sand blasting or welding , its that the sand blasting was a very good number to be in. :-)

Theres little to turn your hand to as things are right now. Maybe worth coming over for an extended holiday and see how it goes???

Jo xxx

missile Jan 24th 2012 11:35 am

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Decide what your objectives are, make a plan and go for it.

Be prepared. It is difficult to anticipate the problems you will encounter. It can be very stressful living and working in a foreign country. Spain is not for everyone, many give up and go home for a variety of reasons.

If you and your partner a glass half full people, it is better to look back and say I tried that rather than what if?

Cazzy1 Jan 24th 2012 9:38 pm

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We moved to Spain thinking we would not need to work, but seem to work harder here then we did in the UK. We are quite lucky and work has found us. My husband has a good pension, but the extra helps pay for holidays and things. We have no regrets about moving to Spain, but would really like to sell up and return to the UK as grandchild number 3 is on the way, but the language school who we work for really don't want us to go as they use us for Residential stays for Spanish wanting the British experience, they want me to promise to sell to a Brit who will continue to work for them!!! A bit of a tall order LOL. There is work out there, but if you need an income it is hard, if not give it a try, you can always go back. At least you can say you tried it!!

avocados Jan 24th 2012 9:54 pm

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Go to the Canary Islands, the only area in Spain with decent weather.

It seems as if u want to chillout for a bit, so they're perfect. Not too hot in summer and not too cold in winter.

Particularly interesting if u don't need to work, so you can spend your time in the great outdoors, sport, sport and sport.

Cazzy1 Jan 24th 2012 9:58 pm

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We considered the Canaries, but decided we didn't want to live on an Island. I grew up on the I.O.W and found it quite restricting. I do agree that the climate is better than mainland Spain though.

Lushdaddy Jan 25th 2012 7:50 am

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Originally Posted by pjr (Post 9862836)
Hi . Its time for me to move to a nice warm climate and take on new challenges, maybe around the Alicante area or further away eg. the canaries .Or any good ideas of areas ?. My main field of work would be in sand/grit blasting or doing welding repairs,on a self employed basis. I do not need to earn a fortune as I have decent rental income in the uk .Regards to all: :D

I have no idea where would suit you best but I would deffo try a move. I did and now I'm doing great over here. Lots of people put people off moving but it is worth trying. Good luck. Nice to see people putting positive responses about Spain. Nice. :thumbup:

jojojojojo Jan 25th 2012 8:20 am

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Originally Posted by Lushdaddy (Post 9865078)
I have no idea where would suit you best but I would deffo try a move. I did and now I'm doing great over here. Lots of people put people off moving but it is worth trying. Good luck. Nice to see people putting positive responses about Spain. Nice. :thumbup:

Spain is a lovely place if you have an outside income and no family commitments, costs etc... Its the "moving over with wife, two kids, grandma, two dogs, need a job, will do anything" posts that generally get a more negative response - and thats simply out of concern rather than deliberate unpleasantness

Jo xxx

Lushdaddy Jan 25th 2012 8:38 am

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Originally Posted by jojojojojo (Post 9865132)
Spain is a lovely place if you have an outside income and no family commitments, costs etc... Its the "moving over with wife, two kids, grandma, two dogs, need a job, will do anything" posts that generally get a more negative response - and thats simply out of concern rather than deliberate unpleasantness

Jo xxx

I have a wife and two kids. No dog yet but I do want one. Everything has been great for me out here. I've landed jobs here with exceptional opportunities. Much more than I would have had in Blighty so I just hate it when people deter people from moving here as if I hadn't moved here I would be still a nothingness in UK. It just seems sometimes like people want to put people off moving here because they are too ill equipped. Concern is good. Negativity is not. But negativity seems to be implied a lot, rather like 'Oh I can live out here and manage but you will surely not manage with your lack of language skills and lack of money stay in crap England with no money'.
Sorry to go on, I like people to take a leap. It might just be the best thing they ever do. Like it was for me. :thumbsup:

I totally understand what you're saying. :)

jojojojojo Jan 25th 2012 9:14 am

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Originally Posted by Lushdaddy (Post 9865173)
I have a wife and two kids. No dog yet but I do want one. Everything has been great for me out here. I've landed jobs here with exceptional opportunities. Much more than I would have had in Blighty so I just hate it when people deter people from moving here as if I hadn't moved here I would be still a nothingness in UK. It just seems sometimes like people want to put people off moving here because they are too ill equipped. Concern is good. Negativity is not. But negativity seems to be implied a lot, rather like 'Oh I can live out here and manage but you will surely not manage with your lack of language skills and lack of money stay in crap England with no money'.
Sorry to go on, I like people to take a leap. It might just be the best thing they ever do. Like it was for me. :thumbsup:

I totally understand what you're saying. :)

Your luck was the exception, not the rule as things stand and I'm really pleased for you. However, I personally cant bring myself to advise people to give up homes, jobs, families in the UK on a dream, cos if it doesnt go well - what then??? The odds are stacked against people. and we have to tell them, or we'd be lying - You can see that I'm sure. At least then if they choose to give it a go, they are informed and know what they're facing! I hate being negative, but they ask the question and deserve honest answers. Mind you some on this forum can over kill the answer sometimes lol!!!

Jo xxx

tonysallis1 Jan 25th 2012 9:14 am

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Originally Posted by Cazzy1 (Post 9864184)
We moved to Spain thinking we would not need to work, but seem to work harder here then we did in the UK. We are quite lucky and work has found us. My husband has a good pension, but the extra helps pay for holidays and things. We have no regrets about moving to Spain, but would really like to sell up and return to the UK as grandchild number 3 is on the way, but the language school who we work for really don't want us to go as they use us for Residential stays for Spanish wanting the British experience, they want me to promise to sell to a Brit who will continue to work for them!!! A bit of a tall order LOL. There is work out there, but if you need an income it is hard, if not give it a try, you can always go back. At least you can say you tried it!!

i'm thinking of moving to Alicante area, is this where you work because I could take your place if so

Lushdaddy Jan 25th 2012 9:19 am

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Originally Posted by jojojojojo (Post 9865277)
Your luck was the exception, not the rule as things stand and I'm really pleased for you. However, I personally cant bring myself to advise people to give up homes, jobs, families in the UK on a dream, cos if it doesnt go well - what then??? The odds are stacked against people. and we have to tell them, or we'd be lying - You can see that I'm sure. At least then if they choose to give it a go, they are informed and know what they're facing! I hate being negative, but they ask the question and deserve honest answers. Mind you some on this forum can over kill the answer sometimes lol!!!

Jo xxx

Totally understand.:). They do have a money count coming in though from uk so hopefully it can work really well. :starsmile:

missile Jan 25th 2012 7:18 pm

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Originally Posted by Lushdaddy (Post 9865173)
I have a wife and two kids. No dog yet but I do want one. Everything has been great for me out here. I've landed jobs here with exceptional opportunities. Much more than I would have had in Blighty so I just hate it when people deter people from moving here as if I hadn't moved here I would be still a nothingness in UK. It just seems sometimes like people want to put people off moving here because they are too ill equipped. Concern is good. Negativity is not. But negativity seems to be implied a lot, rather like 'Oh I can live out here and manage but you will surely not manage with your lack of language skills and lack of money stay in crap England with no money'.
Sorry to go on, I like people to take a leap. It might just be the best thing they ever do. Like it was for me. :thumbsup:

I totally understand what you're saying. :)

Very well said that man :thumbsup:

JLFS Jan 25th 2012 7:52 pm

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Originally Posted by jojojojojo (Post 9865277)
Your luck was the exception, not the rule as things stand and I'm really pleased for you. However, I personally cant bring myself to advise people to give up homes, jobs, families in the UK on a dream, cos if it doesnt go well - what then??? The odds are stacked against people. and we have to tell them, or we'd be lying - You can see that I'm sure. At least then if they choose to give it a go, they are informed and know what they're facing! I hate being negative, but they ask the question and deserve honest answers. Mind you some on this forum can over kill the answer sometimes lol!!!

Jo xxx

I am with you on this JO.

TBH there are enough Spanish chasing every job, and as for jobs with "prospects" they are alreay in the bag for a relative or cronie.

As for pay and living on less money that was needed in the UK, yes it can be done, I know families who live a 500 to 600 per month, but it is not highly recommended.

That is not to say there are not exceptions.......and I would have thought that it was public knowledge by now that there is a recession on in Spain, and that it would seem logical to stay put and conserve what you have at home.

Rosemary Jan 25th 2012 8:13 pm

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Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 9866146)
I am with you on this JO.

TBH there are enough Spanish chasing every job, and as for jobs with "prospects" they are alreay in the bag for a relative or cronie.

As for pay and living on less money that was needed in the UK, yes it can be done, I know families who live a 500 to 600 per month, but it is not highly recommended.

That is not to say there are not exceptions.......and I would have thought that it was public knowledge by now that there is a recession on in Spain, and that it would seem logical to stay put and conserve what you have at home.


Originally Posted by jojojojojo (Post 9865277)
Your luck was the exception, not the rule as things stand and I'm really pleased for you. However, I personally cant bring myself to advise people to give up homes, jobs, families in the UK on a dream, cos if it doesnt go well - what then??? The odds are stacked against people. and we have to tell them, or we'd be lying - You can see that I'm sure. At least then if they choose to give it a go, they are informed and know what they're facing! I hate being negative, but they ask the question and deserve honest answers. Mind you some on this forum can over kill the answer sometimes lol!!!

Jo xxx

I get fed up with people accusing us of being too positive or too negative when most of us try to put people in the picture in an honest way.

The recession is having such a bad effect on the Spanish people that I would never encourage anyone to take a chance and come over to look for a job, I would feel that I was putting someone into a bad situation. Those that have guaranteed work to come to and retirees or people with an income are the lucky ones.

Some are lucky and gain work via relations and friends but unfortunately for every relative or friend that is helped there are a lot of others not so lucky and are disgruntled.

I think that a couple of years ago it would have been much easier to just pop across and try your hand but these are different times now.

All we can do is to continue being straight forward and honest with posters.

Rosemary

grela.fdez Jan 25th 2012 8:26 pm

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Hello Rosemary,

I am new on here and I do agree.

I am living in England, at the moment with my divorced mother, who divorced my father.

We have lived in Spain about a few times. And it is difficult, for us, we have better jobs here and like to go back but the time is not right.

Rosemary Jan 25th 2012 8:40 pm

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Originally Posted by grela.fdez (Post 9866182)
Hello Rosemary,

I am new on here and I do agree.

I am living in England, at the moment with my divorced mother, who divorced my father.

We have lived in Spain about a few times. And it is difficult, for us, we have better jobs here and like to go back but the time is not right.

As Concierge for the Spanish section of BE I would like to say hello and welcome.

BE is a very large expat website, so if you have problems finding your way around we have concierges who will try to direct you. The moderators for the Spanish forums are Mitzyboy and Fred James, moderators are there to ensure that the site runs smoothly within the rules of BE. Problems and complaints should always be addressed to a moderador who will look into the matter and deal with it efficiently and fairly. Our members who post in the Spain Forums are friendly and helpful with a wealth of knowledge of the issues of living in Spain. At the top of the page you will find a quirkily named thread called Free Beer which is full of important and useful information. Hope you enjoy your time participating in the forums.

Please let me know if you need any further help.

Rosemary

JLFS Jan 25th 2012 8:48 pm

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Originally Posted by grela.fdez (Post 9866182)
Hello Rosemary,

I am new on here and I do agree.

I am living in England, at the moment with my divorced mother, who divorced my father.

We have lived in Spain about a few times. And it is difficult, for us, we have better jobs here and like to go back but the time is not right.


FDEZ? There are a few other Spanish who are members, welcome, Grela.

I am another FDEZ........

Cazzy1 Jan 25th 2012 8:57 pm

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Originally Posted by tonysallis1 (Post 9865278)
i'm thinking of moving to Alicante area, is this where you work because I could take your place if so

Unfortunatly we are in inland andalucia. Which is much better than Alicante!!!!!

jackytoo Jan 25th 2012 9:31 pm

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It would be helpful if those who have moved and found there are better job prospects in Spain post as to how they did it and what they do. Perhaps the 33% unemployed spaniards in andalucía would like to know too.

grela.fdez Jan 25th 2012 10:55 pm

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Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 9866265)
It would be helpful if those who have moved and found there are better job prospects in Spain post as to how they did it and what they do. Perhaps the 33% unemployed spaniards in andalucía would like to know too.

We moved back to and back here a few times.

My mother job was cleaning "casas rurales" in Segovia, but it was good then went bad, and she was put out of the job.

Things were bad so we came back to England to live with my brother.

Now we have our own flat, and it is better,but I will like to go to Spain to live, AGAIN, but not now.

Graciela.

Nice to know other FDEZ,

Cazzy1 Jan 26th 2012 1:04 am

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Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 9866265)
It would be helpful if those who have moved and found there are better job prospects in Spain post as to how they did it and what they do. Perhaps the 33% unemployed spaniards in andalucía would like to know too.

Good idea, it might give others some inspiration.

As for us, we had no need to work, but this is what we do now....

We work for an estate agents, although things are not great at the moment property is still selling.

We clean and maintain a few holiday homes, including seeing guests in and out etc. This pays quite well and we are quite busy with this for about 9 months of the year.

We work with a local language school. This includes all summer being part of a full english imersion course for children. The children stay with us from monday til friday, we feed them with english food, speak english with them, they watch english TV and play english games etc. They have classes everyday which are run by the school. Other british families in the village also host these children. The classes take place at our house as we have a lot of room, we also get payed for this on top of what we get for having the children. In the winter we host adults at the weekends, who also want to learn english.

The language school has also just opened a new school in the local town, so I guess we will also get involved with teaching there..... if we have time!!!!

jojojojojo Jan 26th 2012 1:09 am

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Originally Posted by Cazzy1 (Post 9866589)
Good idea, it might give others some inspiration.

As for us, we had no need to work, but this is what we do now....

We work for an estate agents, although things are not great at the moment property is still selling.

We clean and maintain a few holiday homes, including seeing guests in and out etc. This pays quite well and we are quite busy with this for about 9 months of the year.

We work with a local language school. This includes all summer being part of a full english imersion course for children. The children stay with us from monday til friday, we feed them with english food, speak english with them, they watch english TV and play english games etc. They have classes everyday which are run by the school. Other british families in the village also host these children. The classes take place at our house as we have a lot of room, we also get payed for this on top of what we get for having the children. In the winter we host adults at the weekends, who also want to learn english.

The language school has also just opened a new school in the local town, so I guess we will also get involved with teaching there..... if we have time!!!!

Thats the way to do it. To have an income and that gives you a buffer to enable you to settle and hopefully find work, cos it seems most work comes by knowing people and being part of a community. for a family to land with nothing but hope, isnt a good start to "the dream" especially as things are with mass unemployment. some may hit lucky, but one should always have a back up plan. Imagine having to unpick it all after 6 months cos the money has run out - having to go back to the UK with nothing, find accomodation, schools, jobs - and even having to tell everyone it didnt work........... !!

jo xxx

agoreira Jan 26th 2012 2:55 am

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Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 9866265)
It would be helpful if those who have moved and found there are better job prospects in Spain post as to how they did it and what they do. Perhaps the 33% unemployed spaniards in andalucía would like to know too.

I guess some will get by teaching English etc, others will be doing the jobs the Spanish don't want. I'm sure the people cleaning properties wouldn't have entertained doing that in UK, but needs must. Friends of ours, both ex well paid professional people, earning big money in UK, are now looking after and cleaning some holiday lets, I can only assume it's for something to do rather than for the money.

tonysallis1 Jan 26th 2012 3:00 am

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Originally Posted by jojojojojo (Post 9866599)
Thats the way to do it. To have an income and that gives you a buffer to enable you to settle and hopefully find work, cos it seems most work comes by knowing people and being part of a community. for a family to land with nothing but hope, isnt a good start to "the dream" especially as things are with mass unemployment. some may hit lucky, but one should always have a back up plan. Imagine having to unpick it all after 6 months cos the money has run out - having to go back to the UK with nothing, find accomodation, schools, jobs - and even having to tell everyone it didnt work........... !!

jo xxx

hi jojo, you've done well in getting spanish children to help them with their English, how did you start up in that field?

Lushdaddy Jan 26th 2012 9:41 am

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Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 9866265)
It would be helpful if those who have moved and found there are better job prospects in Spain post as to how they did it and what they do. Perhaps the 33% unemployed spaniards in andalucía would like to know too.

I bet they would.;)


Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 9866769)
I guess some will get by teaching English etc, others will be doing the jobs the Spanish don't want. I'm sure the people cleaning properties wouldn't have entertained doing that in UK, but needs must. Friends of ours, both ex well paid professional people, earning big money in UK, are now looking after and cleaning some holiday lets, I can only assume it's for something to do rather than for the money.

You absolute joke. Absolute stupid joke you are. Why do you have to try and put people down just because they don't earn LOTS OF MONEY.:thumbdown:

jojojojojo Jan 26th 2012 10:19 am

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Originally Posted by Lushdaddy (Post 9867477)
I bet they would.;)



You absolute joke. Absolute stupid joke you are. Why do you have to try and put people down just because they don't earn LOTS OF MONEY.:thumbdown:

You could have said that in a so much nicer way and made your point in a way that people would listen and pay attention. Now you've probably got peoples backs up and spoilt the thread! Chill and be nice please!

Jo xxx

steviedeluxe Jan 26th 2012 8:14 pm

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For anyone seeking to go and work in Spain there are two main options. One is teaching English in one of the big cities like Barcelona, and especially Madrid.
Another option for those who are IT geeks is to get work in the exploding IT sector. Wiseri.com and Infojobs.net are a good start. Here's a website that has just been started - where an internet has the "empleo" sign you'll find their jobs page http://www.internetmadeinspain.org/ It varies from company to company, but Tuenti in particular appear to be setting on people

Open Positions - Engineering

Backend Engineer
Frontend Engineer
Frontend Engineer (Barcelona)
IT Intern
JavaScript Engineer
Lead Engineer, Frontend
Lead Engineer, Messaging
QA Engineer (Barcelona)
QA Engineer (Madrid)
QA Engineer Intern
Release Engineer
Software Engineer Intern
Test Framework Engineer

Open Positions - Design and User Experience

Mobile UX Designer
UX Designer
User Interface Developer
Visual Designer

There are other companies worth checking out such as Deporvillage and Chicisimo.es in Valencia.
Another IT jobs board for startup companies is here http://dir.betabeers.com/post/

Lastly, always worth checking on Twitter - search on "Madrid empleo" or "Barcelona jobs" for various new opportunities.
Good luck :fingerscrossed:

Cazzy1 Jan 26th 2012 8:18 pm

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Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 9866769)
I guess some will get by teaching English etc, others will be doing the jobs the Spanish don't want. I'm sure the people cleaning properties wouldn't have entertained doing that in UK, but needs must. Friends of ours, both ex well paid professional people, earning big money in UK, are now looking after and cleaning some holiday lets, I can only assume it's for something to do rather than for the money.


I had a very busy well paid job with social services in the UK. It is great not having the pressure, although the spanish kids can be stressful!! I am quite happy with my menial jobs in Spain.

agoreira Jan 26th 2012 8:28 pm

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Originally Posted by Cazzy1 (Post 9868148)
I had a very busy well paid job with social services in the UK. It is great not having the pressure, although the spanish kids can be stressful!! I am quite happy with my menial jobs in Spain.

Not knocking it, but I'm sure that cleaning houses for others for very low wages, for example, never featured in plans of many people moving to Spain. If I had told our friend that she would end up cleaning toilets, cleaning houses, I think she would have fallen about laughing. ;) Couldn't see Jackie2 doing that! :rofl:

tonysallis1 Jan 26th 2012 8:28 pm

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Originally Posted by steviedeluxe (Post 9868145)
For anyone seeking to go and work in Spain there are two main options. One is teaching English in one of the big cities like Barcelona, and especially Madrid.
Another option for those who are IT geeks is to get work in the exploding IT sector. Wiseri.com and Infojobs.net are a good start. Here's a website that has just been started - where an internet has the "empleo" sign you'll find their jobs page http://www.internetmadeinspain.org/ It varies from company to company, but Tuenti in particular appear to be setting on people


There are other companies worth checking out such as Deporvillage and Chicisimo.es in Valencia.
Another IT jobs board for startup companies is here http://dir.betabeers.com/post/

Lastly, always worth checking on Twitter - search on "Madrid empleo" or "Barcelona jobs" for various new opportunities.
Good luck :fingerscrossed:

Thanx Stevie, I'll take your advice, and have a look around at these sites, I did think of teaching English, as plan B but IT looks a good bet, thanx for advice mate

tonysallis1 Jan 26th 2012 8:32 pm

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Originally Posted by Cazzy1 (Post 9868148)
I had a very busy well paid job with social services in the UK. It is great not having the pressure, although the spanish kids can be stressful!! I am quite happy with my menial jobs in Spain.

Is there any value in looking to buy more than one property in Spain and renting out as a source of income?

jojojojojo Jan 26th 2012 8:39 pm

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Originally Posted by Cazzy1 (Post 9868148)
I had a very busy well paid job with social services in the UK. It is great not having the pressure, although the spanish kids can be stressful!! I am quite happy with my menial jobs in Spain.

Same here. I used to run an out of hours doctors service in the UK. In Spain I have to say I was bored out of my brain without any work. The novelty of being in Spain soon wore off for me and I hated not earning anything and struggling, altho my husband commuted to the UK and earnt enough (not the same as having my own income}, but after three years I got a job working in a cafe, which was hard but preferable to my previous job - nice not to have the responsibility. Life isnt about money, well it is to start with, but eventually you realise theres more. However, life without any money is a worry, especially if you have kids. Wherever you are, they will always "want, want, want" and living in Spain doesnt make up for that or stop it

Jo xxx

JLFS Jan 26th 2012 8:41 pm

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Originally Posted by tonysallis1 (Post 9868177)
Is there any value in looking to buy more than one property in Spain and renting out as a source of income?

In a word NO.

You would be better of doing that in the UK.

Cazzy1 Jan 26th 2012 8:45 pm

Re: Its time for me to move on !
 

Originally Posted by tonysallis1 (Post 9868177)
Is there any value in looking to buy more than one property in Spain and renting out as a source of income?

Depends where it is and the price you charge, the properties we look after are all inland. The people who rent want the real spain and are mainly French. I guess they have about 80% ocupancy in a year.

steviedeluxe Jan 26th 2012 9:08 pm

Re: Its time for me to move on !
 

Originally Posted by tonysallis1 (Post 9868177)
Is there any value in looking to buy more than one property in Spain and renting out as a source of income?

Since tourist numbers were 57 million in 2011, and expected to grow in 2012, I would have thought there is scope to rent out in the right areas. However, this wouldn't be full occupancy over the year?

http://en.europeonline-magazine.eu/s...is_180444.html

The Spanish talkboards like this one advise anyone moving to Spain, to rent for a while before choosing to buy. Maybe it would be smart to target the new British arrivals?

Alternatively, as suggested above, target a niche. Very dangerous again, if you are relying just on high season. For example this report shows Russian tourism to Spain is growing now, but would high season just be a couple of months rent, and the rest of the year vacant?

http://singularspain.com/tourism-2/r...l-and-majorca/
http://www.diariosur.es/v/20111221/t...-20111221.html


The Costa del Sol has been how the volume of Russian tourists increased by 72% during the year 2011. This area of the Spanish South arouses great interest among Russians every year and it is the second favourite destination in the fastest growing number of Russian tourists behind Majorca. The Costa Brava is still the region preferred by Russians, although the areas mentioned above are still cutting distances. In addition, the Junta de Andalucía is searching with an ad campaign to promote the virtues and the attractions of this autonomous region for tourism among Russian and Polish people.

As demand has grown, so the air connections with Russia have grown so, and up to 25 Russian cities have had flights making stopover in Spain. Forecasts point to a growning of the Russian tourism in the coming years. Much of the Russian tourists are people with a high purchasing power and leave great amounts of money in cities where they spend their holidays. Some of them even look for luxury products that they can find in places like Puerto Banus.
Edit: Looks like the Arabs are coming to Spain too, for reasons I can't figure out...

http://www.arabianbusiness.com/emira...in-442541.html


Emirates Airline has said it will launch Barcelona as its route to Spain in July, just days after doubling flights to Madrid.

The airline said it is embarking on a major boost to its services in Spain on the heels of mounting demand for its Madrid service, launched in August 2010.

The daily Barcelona flights will start on July 3, while the Madrid services will be doubled from July 1.

jackytoo Jan 26th 2012 9:27 pm

Re: Its time for me to move on !
 

Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 9868169)
Not knocking it, but I'm sure that cleaning houses for others for very low wages, for example, never featured in plans of many people moving to Spain. If I had told our friend that she would end up cleaning toilets, cleaning houses, I think she would have fallen about laughing. ;) Couldn't see Jackie2 doing that! :rofl:

What does it say for Spain if it's soo boring that you feel the need to clean up other peoples pubic hair and dead skin scum around the bath:blink:


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