I'm moving to Spain!
Jul 19th 2008 | 10:39 am
#16
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From: Vejer de la Fra., Cadiz
Re: I'm moving to Spain!
A suggestion if I may? Read as much of the free beer thread as poss, and have a look thru other threads, as some of those may well carry the information you seek.
Some on here live in Spain, some in the UK and some commute.
For the love of god, heed the warnings and be damn careful that what you buy is legit, kosher and above board. Don't believe everything that sellers or agents say. I'm near Vejer, so if you want a good lawyer there or estate agent, I can certainly give you a recommendation. We were very satisfied with them.
You will face problems if you want to rebuild a ruin or do much building, as they are mostly pretty strict there.
Medina is a nice town, but like Conil and Vejer it is doing a lot of building. Places with land are at a premium. I suspect that the smaller places with little or no land are going to be, if not ten a penny, at least seriously cheaper than they have been. I've seen the advice here posted to rent and see what the prices do. It might be the best investment you make.
Some on here live in Spain, some in the UK and some commute.
For the love of god, heed the warnings and be damn careful that what you buy is legit, kosher and above board. Don't believe everything that sellers or agents say. I'm near Vejer, so if you want a good lawyer there or estate agent, I can certainly give you a recommendation. We were very satisfied with them.
You will face problems if you want to rebuild a ruin or do much building, as they are mostly pretty strict there.
Medina is a nice town, but like Conil and Vejer it is doing a lot of building. Places with land are at a premium. I suspect that the smaller places with little or no land are going to be, if not ten a penny, at least seriously cheaper than they have been. I've seen the advice here posted to rent and see what the prices do. It might be the best investment you make.
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Jul 19th 2008 | 1:44 pm
#17
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Re: I'm moving to Spain!
I'm aware that salaries are cheaper, on the other hand we won't have a mortgage so I'm thinking that if I get something decent (ish) and the other half gets something in manufacturing, daughter does part time bar/cleaning, we can manage easily.
We are extremely fortunate in having relatives out there already with a garage big enough for our belongings, (yes you could get 4 double decker buses in there) and some spare bedrooms for us to stay in whilst we look for employment.
Does anyone have ideas regarding the job market in Gibraltar?
We are extremely fortunate in having relatives out there already with a garage big enough for our belongings, (yes you could get 4 double decker buses in there) and some spare bedrooms for us to stay in whilst we look for employment.
Does anyone have ideas regarding the job market in Gibraltar?
The key for you guys is employment - I am not sure there are many manufacturing jobs in the area, have a look at:
http://paulday.proboards3.com/index.cgi#general
for a local board
http://www.cadiznews.com/
http://www.laluzmag.com/
Jul 19th 2008 | 8:28 pm
#18
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From: ex ex-pat, in Taunton
Re: I'm moving to Spain!
Expensive car tax, mine is only €50
Jul 19th 2008 | 8:39 pm
#19
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From: Jerez
Re: I'm moving to Spain!
We llive in Bornos we have a friend who commutes to Gib daily it takes her a good hour and a half. But she says it is well worth it and enjoys her job.
Jul 19th 2008 | 10:33 pm
#23
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Re: I'm moving to Spain!
There is of everything. For example, my brother-in-law is a truck driver and gets paid 3000 € ; my cousin is a musician and gets paid 2000 € , and his fiancée is a doctor in a specialty and she gets pais almost 6000 €. So we cannot generalize in the salaries, there is of everything
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Jul 19th 2008 | 10:36 pm
#24
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From: Southern Spain
Re: I'm moving to Spain!
We're about 6 kms inland from the coast on the Costa Blanca. I have a 2.2 ltr car and the tax is around a 100 euros.
remember if you're buying on a community you will have fees to pay for the upkeep of it . These can range from the sublime to the ridiculous. Some are around a couple of hundred pa, ours are 900 per year, and I know people on the CDS who are paying 1200 pa, so be very careful to find out how much they are before commiting yourself!!
remember if you're buying on a community you will have fees to pay for the upkeep of it . These can range from the sublime to the ridiculous. Some are around a couple of hundred pa, ours are 900 per year, and I know people on the CDS who are paying 1200 pa, so be very careful to find out how much they are before commiting yourself!!
Jul 20th 2008 | 2:06 am
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Re: I'm moving to Spain!
I have so many questions, you are all going to get pretty fed up with me when I'm done.
Are there a lot of Brits in-land or do they live on the coast?
I know jobs are sparse at the moment, but whats the manufacturing employment like?
I don't want a brand new house on a development, is it easier to buy property with land or an apartment?
Are most of you retired or employed, what do you do for a living?
etc etc etc
Are there a lot of Brits in-land or do they live on the coast?
I know jobs are sparse at the moment, but whats the manufacturing employment like?
I don't want a brand new house on a development, is it easier to buy property with land or an apartment?
Are most of you retired or employed, what do you do for a living?
etc etc etc
Depending on what sort of distance you want to commute, I'd suggest having a look at the area around Jerez further north of Medina. I guess you're looking at work in Gibraltar becuase it has a large English speaking community? There is also a huge US base at Rota (just south of Jerez). I assume that they employ civilians and may even have a preference for English speakers.
With such a large military base the troops also trade in the town, so naturally, many businesses look for English speakers to cash in. The town itself is a very pretty little harbour town with castle. Very quiet out of season, but always with military personnel to keep the place busy.
Not to far from Medina I guess. Not uncommon for people to commute at speed for Two hours along the motorways here. It's a relatively new phenomenon mind and not something I would fancy doing.
There is always a demand for English teachers. You shouldn't have a problem. And, despite the slow business ATM it is always possible to make your own work. May take time to establish your name, but good, honest services from skilled trades-people is appreciated here. Sadly, there are far to many cowboys around. A trusted reputation is worth a lot here.
e2a; Mis-read your post. What sort of manufacturing is the half into?
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Jul 20th 2008 | 8:37 am
#28
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From: West Midlands, ex Granada province
Re: I'm moving to Spain!
Hi there and welcome!.
We are inland in a mountain village in Granada Province.
Our Council Tax is around 90 euros a year.
Car tax 75 euros for a seven seat 1.9 Tdi diesel Seat Alhambra.
We are early retired.
My advice is not to buy anything you can't see. In other words, don't believe the agents when they say 'of course you can have an extension' or 'of course you will be able to bring electricity to the property'.
Buy a place with everything you need already there (or at least the means to do it, for example plumbing is already there although the bathroom might not be). Then if you are allowed to add anything else, it will be a bonus, but your place will still be liveable even if you can't extend/build/ develop.
Good luck!
We are inland in a mountain village in Granada Province.
Our Council Tax is around 90 euros a year.
Car tax 75 euros for a seven seat 1.9 Tdi diesel Seat Alhambra.
We are early retired.
My advice is not to buy anything you can't see. In other words, don't believe the agents when they say 'of course you can have an extension' or 'of course you will be able to bring electricity to the property'.
Buy a place with everything you need already there (or at least the means to do it, for example plumbing is already there although the bathroom might not be). Then if you are allowed to add anything else, it will be a bonus, but your place will still be liveable even if you can't extend/build/ develop.
Good luck!
Jul 20th 2008 | 10:29 pm
#29
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From: 1314 & mijas-costa
Re: I'm moving to Spain!
The other half and I have decided that we are going to Spain. Luckily I already have family living there who will put us up until we find decent property.
We are moving with my son who is 7 and my 16 year old daughter (GCSE's completed) I do have an older daughter who wishes to stay here.
I'm really excited and even though our house isn't on the market yet, the 4 estate agents that came round this weekend have said that it shouldn't be hard to sell. But they would say that wouldn't they
The cost of living has become intolerable and our weather seems to be getting worse rather than as global warming predicted - better.
I'm thrilled, excited, scared, worried, hopefull, happy all at the same time, its exhausting me. I've read about the pitfalls, but fortunately the other half is into manufacturing so may be able to get something with bugger all Spanish, and my Spanish is fluent, so I could probably teach English or at least get an office job. My daughter will have to learn pretty quick, whilst getting employment in some rubbish job, but hey, she will learn fast. As for my son, I've already started teaching him Spanish, just wish I did it years ago.
We won't have a mortgage, such a relief, but of course will still need to pay the bills, I notice the council tax is far cheaper - massive help as ours is just plain stupid at over £2000 a year.
phew, sorry about the long post, but I NEED TO TELL SOMEONE! LOL
p.s. thinking of property within commute distance of Gibraltar for better job opportunities for other half, is that a good idea?
Sooo tell me, am I crazy?
Regards
Natasha
We are moving with my son who is 7 and my 16 year old daughter (GCSE's completed) I do have an older daughter who wishes to stay here.
I'm really excited and even though our house isn't on the market yet, the 4 estate agents that came round this weekend have said that it shouldn't be hard to sell. But they would say that wouldn't they
The cost of living has become intolerable and our weather seems to be getting worse rather than as global warming predicted - better.
I'm thrilled, excited, scared, worried, hopefull, happy all at the same time, its exhausting me. I've read about the pitfalls, but fortunately the other half is into manufacturing so may be able to get something with bugger all Spanish, and my Spanish is fluent, so I could probably teach English or at least get an office job. My daughter will have to learn pretty quick, whilst getting employment in some rubbish job, but hey, she will learn fast. As for my son, I've already started teaching him Spanish, just wish I did it years ago.
We won't have a mortgage, such a relief, but of course will still need to pay the bills, I notice the council tax is far cheaper - massive help as ours is just plain stupid at over £2000 a year.
phew, sorry about the long post, but I NEED TO TELL SOMEONE! LOL
p.s. thinking of property within commute distance of Gibraltar for better job opportunities for other half, is that a good idea?
Sooo tell me, am I crazy?
Regards
Natasha
dont know if this helps you here are some agency in gib
www.wemploy.com
www.recruitgibraltar.com
mybe look online the surinenglish.com or the sur.es think its about euro spanish version daily paper
no your not crazy good luck you have place to stay with family.
Jul 21st 2008 | 1:39 am
#30
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From: Rugby
Re: I'm moving to Spain!
I would read the thread
Telling it the way it is for a change!
I think your enthusiasm is great but has to be subject to acceptance that your family will not be moving over to a healthy Spanish economy and this will probably curtail job opportunities even more than now for non-Spanish speakers.
I appreciate you may have a better insight than most on this site because of your family in Spain and I would go for it (but not without a parachute
)
Telling it the way it is for a change!
I think your enthusiasm is great but has to be subject to acceptance that your family will not be moving over to a healthy Spanish economy and this will probably curtail job opportunities even more than now for non-Spanish speakers.
I appreciate you may have a better insight than most on this site because of your family in Spain and I would go for it (but not without a parachute
)
