Eire is in the EC.. so why not sky TV for Spain if they can do it in Ireland..

have a look at a map
Northern Ireland is part of the UK and on the same island as Eire, it is not possible to aim a general purpose satellite beam to cut off at the border.
because the Channel Isles are part of the UK there is overspill to France for the same reason.
In fact there would appear to be a move to ensure that certain other countries can receive the transmissions by overspill and an additional "lobe"

some of the IPTV providers pay the small amount for a Sky account and take the broadcasts and retransmitting them on the internet, selling it to say 10,000 expats for £50 per month having "bought" it for £50 a month. That is £50 short of £half a million profit - per month.

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some of the IPTV providers pay the small amount for a Sky account and take the broadcasts and retransmitting them on the internet, selling it to say 10,000 expats for £50 per month having "bought" it for £50 a month. That is £50 short of £half a million profit - per month.

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they get €30 a month from me.. i wonder if i could start an internet TV company..and i know all about Ireland as im from there..

I wonder just how may expats would be happy to pay the equivalent of the average SKY subsciption £60/month + so that they could officially receive BBC through to C5 via a decent and reliable internet provider.
I suspect that we would soon get posts moanng about the cost and loss of their " RIGHT " to receive UK TV.
Basically there are too many out there who want something for nothng and hde behind " freedom to receive broadcasts etc etc ".

I would be happy to pay Sky TV for service here in the Canarie Islands..

but we all know there are people living in Canaries who are offering Sky via the internet (but in the manner I described previous). They even claim they are official Sky dealers - but there is no such thing). They also are advertising that they can offer next season's League Football - but that involves a deal they have with an organisation that has an exclusive agreement for Middle East and North African countries only.

as you can see, there are no borders any more.
just that people are being asked to pay for boxes that may become useless next week or next month, without guarantee, for a service that has been stolen or misused outside the agreed contract. but you can trust them after all they are expats

so in the meantime some people are making loadsa dosh and looking for the next scam .......

That's right. But it's a violation of the terms and conditions, not against the law. Yes, they can sue you for it, but in reality, it's easier for them to cut you off. What they can't do is file a criminal suit against you, because you are not breaking the law.

If a company streams their signal to people around the world without their permission, then it's likely they would sue them for copyright infringement. That's already happening in several cases.

Dom is right. NI is part of the same land mass.

But in a more practical view, it's simply not possible with current satellite technology to strictly cut the signal at the border. Can't be done. That's precisely why you can still (and always will be) able to receive the signal in Spain.

True, but they probably ARE official Sky dealers - in the UK - but are simply violating their agreement, which Sky probably chooses not to enforce because they have bigger things to worry about. Besides they are getting a few bob...

Well, the future of internet TV has a lot more risk in it than Satellite for one simple reason: Rights.


Rights to content you watch on UK TV has been granted to certain broadcasters to deliver to a specific geographical region. By transmitting it on the internet (without permission controls to ensure it is being received in the licenced geographical area) is a clear violations of those terms, and that's he reason for all the disputes in court, so the future of this is uncertain at best. But while it exists, it's an alternative. In the end, it will likely become a pay service and everybody in the food chain will get their bob.

In contrast, the satellite signal is 100% legal and is NOT going away anytime in the foreseeable future (just harder to receive). It will always be available in Spain, but you just need more expensive kit to get it.

I'd reckon substantially fewer than what we'd all like to believe would be willing to pay for internet delivery of UK TV. Especially not £50 a month in a country where it's difficult to get 1Mb of internet speed, and especially when you can get it illegally using Rube Goldberg / Heath Robinson methodology.

I had Telefonica's internet TV for a year, which was useless and didn't work for more than 1 hour per day, but I had to pay for it because I was locked into the contract. I won't be making that mistake again.

I never said it was against a law, although as I pointed out somewhere here or in another thread it could be interpreted as breaking the Wireless Telegraphy Act, as altered and amended, as it is taking signals for which the receipient is not authorised. There haven't been many such prosecutions recently.
Other than copyright, which has been successfully used by Sky and others just recently, there are probably one or two covering IP.
There is a question of a Tort in civil law, but the paperwork required for court for each and every expat in Spain, France, Italy etc etc would be enormous for little return - especially as most of them probably couldnt fund their own defence letalone the prosecution costs.
So it is unlikely at the moment that the ordinary punter will have the police knocking at their door.

you are wrong on that - it is possible, and its done every day and has been for quite some time. I know of several places in the UK which operate by such a system. In the same way that a military GPS position is a long way more accurate than the general one released to the public.
And as to the "always will be" - can I sue you if it is changed at some time in the near or distant future?? Thought not, as Iberia is a lobe "tweaked" in the transmitting horn, at low signal level presumably as a favour to someone somewhere.

Copyright law is different in Spain so it is possible to offer Sky without actually being a dealer - so long as it is actually in your package you what law are you breaking ?
and most expats wouldn't ask to see a certificate, especially as the guy used to be a painter, brickie, carpenter, odd-job man in the UK - and I know a couple of those, but one has gone back to the UK broke.

well it could go if the EMP from a large solar flare should arrive at the wrong time over equatorial Africa


that is the argueable point. lots of people make wild claims about how much internet they can get, some are misreading the up and down figures.
And yet they will complain because they have problems with Skype when using fone and video - not understanding that it isn't Skype's fault, they just didn't know how much bandwidth such basic systems need to operate.
Now if you wanted to pay a real price for a real system........ But NO, all I want is the freeby system!

rgds

Still kept the navy at sea though

One question I've been meaning to ask you, why did you chose "Domino"?
That's a girls name

FilmOn now offering a Download service

of course you kept the navy at sea - thats where it belongs, away from meddling maties who get astronomical pay if they have to go with us

Domino in James Bond was actually Dominetta (Vitalli) - played by Claudine Auger.

otherwise,
http://www.thinkbabynames.com/meanin...5rZWiwQ1xrU.99

See also the related Dominic.

Simples

Another new thread has started about loseing TV channels..

I had a very bad experience with IPTV box companies. I ordered a MaaxTV from my local dealer and got one promptly. It came with a box and a few needed accessories. I fitted them to the TV and at first, everything worked fine. Suddenly the device restarted in the middle of what I was watching. I soon found that the receiver was at fault. I complained to the company and they had the temerity to tell me that they will charge extra for shipping the device back and forth. It is very frustrating to see money wasted like this. I am never buying their product again.

As Concierge for the Spanish section of BE I would like to say hello and welcome.

BE is a very large expat website, so if you have problems finding your way around we have concierges who will try to direct you. The moderators for the Spanish forums are Mitzyboy and Fred James, moderators are there to ensure that the site runs smoothly within the rules of BE. Problems and complaints should always be addressed to a moderador who will look into the matter and deal with it efficiently and fairly. Our members who post in the Spain Forums are friendly and helpful with a wealth of knowledge of the issues of living in Spain. At the top of the page you will find a quirkily named thread called Free Beer which is full of important and useful information. Hope you enjoy your time participating in the forums.

Please let me know if you need any further help.

Rosemary

Thank you very much Rosemary,
Will check out the piece of information you gave me
Wishing a great afternoon

EU are now investigation SKY UK, CANAL+ and SKY DEUTSCHLAND over exclusivity contracts that result in EU residents being unable to purchase a viewing card if they are not resident in that country. This is against EU Law.

If you live in Australia, USA or even Thailand you can watch BBC TV shows so why is Spain being ignored by the BBC.