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Old Nov 22nd 2014, 12:17 am
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Hi,
Does anyone know if you can have an I T V inspection earlier than required, does it effect the renewal anniversary date?
I know in England you can have an M O T issued 2 weeks earlier than required, and your renewal anniversary date is unchanged.
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Depending on the vehicle, ITV is good for 36, 24 or 12 months from the (successful) inspection date. Most people hold out till the last minute, which, IIRC, is one month following expiration of your ITV (??).
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Originally Posted by amideislas
Depending on the vehicle, ITV is good for 36, 24 or 12 months from the (successful) inspection date. Most people hold out till the last minute, which, IIRC, is one month following expiration of your ITV (??).
I don't recall there being any grace period. That is, it's die when it expires.
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Originally Posted by snikpoh
I don't recall there being any grace period. That is, it's die when it expires.
You may be right.

I tend to get it done a month prior, but somehow I had it in my mind that it was legal through the month following the punchout on your ITV sticker.
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The next date is 12 months from the date of the last inspection.

If you do it early, the next date moves back, if you do it late it moves forward.
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Originally Posted by Fred James
The next date is 12 months from the date of the last inspection.

If you do it early, the next date moves back, if you do it late it moves forward.
New cars get 3 years, or not?
New-er cars get 2 years,
And most older cars are 12 months.. right?

And some different rules for camiones and commercial vehicles?

or has that all changed and it's 12 months for everyone, no matter what?
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6 months for older vans - some Peugeot Partner/Citroen Berlingo/Renault Kangoo and similar vehicles qualify.
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Originally Posted by amideislas
New cars get 3 years
First ITV on tourismos is 4 years.
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Originally Posted by Fred James
The next date is 12 months from the date of the last inspection.

If you do it early, the next date moves back, if you do it late it moves forward.
This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I can confirm through doing it.
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Ditto...

I did mine around 6 weeks early just a couple of weeks ago as it was due to run out in December and I wouldn't be back in Spain until January. The new ITV runs for one year from the date of the pass for my car.

As a side note... as an MOT tester in the UK, I would say on the whole that the ITV has less elements to it than the UK MOT, with the exception of having a proper shock absorber test and a run out check for alignment.
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Originally Posted by stevescot
Ditto...

I did mine around 6 weeks early just a couple of weeks ago as it was due to run out in December and I wouldn't be back in Spain until January. The new ITV runs for one year from the date of the pass for my car.

As a side note... as an MOT tester in the UK, I would say on the whole that the ITV has less elements to it than the UK MOT, with the exception of having a proper shock absorber test and a run out check for alignment.
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So what is missing? and are they important. I have always thought the ITV stations are impartial and conduct a "correct" test without pressure to pass or fail a given number.

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I've not had washers/wipers/horn checked, and while the car went on to a 'shaker' while the guy was underneath, he didn't seem to do anything other than take a cursory look around with his torch, no poking or prodding until they prise something loose like in the UK!
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Originally Posted by Dxf
Hola

So what is missing? and are they important. I have always thought the ITV stations are impartial and conduct a "correct" test without pressure to pass or fail a given number.

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Well from what I saw, the car wasn't jacked up at any stage. Basically it was driven over a pit and the front wheels were on shaker plates to enable play in steering and suspension joints to be seen. However, I've seen lots of instances where shaker plates don't move the joints in the right way, and a worn ball joint can be missed. Personally I like to check the play by hand, where you can usually detect even slight play and advise as such. Also, worn / noisy wheel bearings can't be detected without jacking the car up and spinning the wheel, and without jacking up, it's difficult to detect broken coil springs.

It's not a bad test as such... It just seems to miss out elements which would be good to have. With the exception of the shock absorber tester which would be really good to have in the UK, as presently, since they took out the antiquated "bounce" test from the MOT, all we can fail on is shock absorber that's leaking fluid or has worn bushes / is hanging off the car! But I think the DVSA don't want to introduce shock absorber testing as it would cost too much for each test station to put in. If they were starting a scheme from scratch they would probably require them....

Incidentally, MOT test stations are not under any pressure to pass or fail any particular number. There is a national average pass and fail rate, but individual test stations don't need to be at that number; only to be able to give reasons as to why they are far away from it, e.g. Some stations may service a vehicle then MOT it, resulting in a pass, whereas others will MOT first, probably failing that vehicle for even minor stuff like headlamp aim, then repair and retest, so the figures are easily skewed. There is also an average test time which some testers get paranoid and hung up on... At the end of the day, the test will take as long as it takes... A 3 year old car that has been regularly serviced and is nice and clean underneath will take less time than a 10 year old bomber that every rusty brake pipe has to be closely inspected and a decision made on each of them, searching for localised areas of corrosion and so on....

Which brings me to the 15 year old Fiat that I own in Spain that is completely rust free! It would be in the scrap yard here....

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Originally Posted by Bri and Katee
I've not had washers/wipers/horn checked, and while the car went on to a 'shaker' while the guy was underneath, he didn't seem to do anything other than take a cursory look around with his torch, no poking or prodding until they prise something loose like in the UK!
That was my experience, although he did test the lights, horn and wipers.

Personally, I wasn't bothered as I had already done a pre check before taking it to the test station. I jacked each wheel up, crawled underneath etc....
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Originally Posted by stevescot
Well from what I saw, the car wasn't jacked up at any stage. Basically it was driven over a pit and the front wheels were on shaker plates to enable play in steering and suspension joints to be seen. However, I've seen lots of instances where shaker plates don't move the joints in the right way, and a worn ball joint can be missed. Personally I like to check the play by hand, where you can usually detect even slight play and advise as such. Also, worn / noisy wheel bearings can't be detected without jacking the car up and spinning the wheel, and without jacking up, it's difficult to detect broken coil springs.

Incidentally, MOT test stations are not under any pressure to pass or fail any particular number. There is a national average pass and fail rate, but individual test stations don't need to be at that number; only to be able to give reasons as to why they are far away from it, e.g. Some stations may service a vehicle then MOT it, resulting in a pass, whereas others will MOT first, probably failing that vehicle for even minor stuff like headlamp aim, then repair and retest, so the figures are easily skewed. There is also an average test time which some testers get paranoid and hung up on... At the end of the day, the test will take as long as it takes... A 3 year old car that has been regularly serviced and is nice and clean underneath will take less time than a 10 year old bomber that every rusty brake pipe has to be closely inspected and a decision made on each of them, searching for localised areas of corrosion and so on....

Which brings me to the 15 year old Fiat that I own in Spain that is completely rust free! It would be in the scrap yard here....
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It is normal when you drive over the pit for the car to be jacked up by a couple of inches; not too much because the "vibration plates" have to move all the steering joints.

My experience of English MOT test is if the garage doesn´t have enough work, then "faults" may be found to get work or increase profits. I prefer the Spanish system where the ITV station does not repair cars.

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