How will La Crisis effect Spain in the long term?
Apr 25th 2013, 3:01 pm
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Re: How will La Crisis effect Spain in the long term?
Some good news on the jobs front here. The UK is looking to recruit 300 Spanish cooks
http://www.diariosur.es/rc/20130425/...304251106.html
http://www.diariosur.es/rc/20130425/...304251106.html
Hope they keep them down South well out my way.
I'm looking forward to some proper grub back in the UK.
Apr 25th 2013, 3:06 pm
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Re: How will La Crisis effect Spain in the long term?
Did anyone catch the Deutsche Bank guy on 5Live this morning? Interesting analysis of the situation and categorically he stated there was absolutely no talk of Spain ever leaving the Eurozone, in fact he was adamant that Italy, Greece and a couple of others may well leave but that Spain and Port could never and no one in Spain at the top is even talking about it.
Apr 25th 2013, 3:07 pm
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Apr 25th 2013, 3:24 pm
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Apr 25th 2013, 4:03 pm
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Re: How will La Crisis effect Spain in the long term?
Revolutions come in all packages....The impending one looming here is a fiscally based one....The Spanish people are prepared to put up with nigh on all manner of corrupt shenanigans in public and private office, no matter how blatant, offensive and obtrusive they are....As long as they’re ‘Alright’, ‘Getting their share’, ‘Making do’, even just ‘Getting by’.....But the closer the precipice appears to near....The more the people suffer, the more stringent the austerity cutbacks and the lifestyle effects....The more they are offended by the corruption , the more they begrudge the privileges and the bungs.....And the precipice is looming large, it is only a matter of time.........It’s life
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Apr 25th 2013, 4:42 pm
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Revolutions come in all packages....The impending one looming here is a fiscally based one....The Spanish people are prepared to put up with nigh on all manner of corrupt shenanigans in public and private office, no matter how blatant, offensive and obtrusive they are....As long as they’re ‘Alright’, ‘Getting their share’, ‘Making do’, even just ‘Getting by’.....But the closer the precipice appears to near....The more the people suffer, the more stringent the austerity cutbacks and the lifestyle effects....The more they are offended by the corruption , the more they begrudge the privileges and the bungs.....And the precipice is looming large, it is only a matter of time.........It’s life
I wonder what the general reaction would be if Spain pulled out of the euro soon ?
Would the population consider it a positive sign that at least something was being done to alleviate the crisis and continue to exercise patience, or would it be looked upon as complete failure and unsettle them even further ?
Apr 25th 2013, 4:46 pm
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Apr 25th 2013, 4:55 pm
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People need some hope, even just a faint ray of light at the end of the tunnel.
I wonder what the general reaction would be if Spain pulled out of the euro soon ?
Would the population consider it a positive sign that at least something was being done to alleviate the crisis and continue to exercise patience, or would it be looked upon as complete failure and unsettle them even further ?
I wonder what the general reaction would be if Spain pulled out of the euro soon ?
Would the population consider it a positive sign that at least something was being done to alleviate the crisis and continue to exercise patience, or would it be looked upon as complete failure and unsettle them even further ?
I believe that the only way to avoid impending civil disruption on a massive scale IS to pull out of the EU.......
Apr 25th 2013, 5:05 pm
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Believe it or not, there just isn't a large desire currently to pull out of the Euro (you would thought so, but as yet no). Give control of the currency value back to the local politicians??? You have to realise that everyone who's earning, knows that his or her Euros have a good purchasing power, which would be slashed with a return to a local currency . Of course you may ask about the 6 million who are on paro- but how many of them still earn euros via the submerged economy? According to Le Monde it's quite a lot. They talk about the submerged economy (ie black) accounting for 20-25% of GNP. Not good for local deficit reduction, but may explain the general relaxed approach CM talks about.
http://www.radiocable.com/monde-econ...medium=twitter
http://www.radiocable.com/monde-econ...medium=twitter
Apr 25th 2013, 5:16 pm
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You mean you don't want 2 skinny lamb chops smothered in garlic
Apr 25th 2013, 6:21 pm
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Apr 26th 2013, 11:33 am
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Re: How will La Crisis effect Spain in the long term?
Believe it or not, there just isn't a large desire currently to pull out of the Euro (you would thought so, but as yet no). Give control of the currency value back to the local politicians??? You have to realise that everyone who's earning, knows that his or her Euros have a good purchasing power, which would be slashed with a return to a local currency .
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance...y-leaving-emu/
The BBC were showing demos in Madrid last night. Also an intersting report about South Americans returning to their own countries.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/f...back-home.html
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Apr 26th 2013, 11:48 am
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Re: How will La Crisis effect Spain in the long term?
Tell you what Jackie, we all know there is a huge "working on the black" issue here. But the new jobs I've linked to exist. No attempt by you to do your normal "it's all made-up" this time?
As for Andalucia, I see Malaga football club are playing at home this weekend. Are we really going to see empty terraces there? I think not? Can't see Real Betis playing before an empty crowd either.
Atletico Madrid then? Nope.
Athletic Bilbao perhaps? Nope.
I think I've mentioned packed and heaving bars before - well maybe I'm just lucky when I fly out there.
Are Starbucks empty in Spain? Genuine question by the way - they serve overpriced coffee as a brand. Can someone here who is actually in Spain pop to their local Starbucks and post a pic? It may actually be empty (and prove me wrong) but I have my doubts..
Of course this doesn't mean there aren't a lot of youngsters without long-term stable work in their area, particularly in the south/ Andalucia. But, as I've said, there are a lot of hard-working and talented Spanish out there who will resolve the situation. Despite the best efforts of some who waste no opportunity to badmouth a whole nation.
As for Andalucia, I see Malaga football club are playing at home this weekend. Are we really going to see empty terraces there? I think not? Can't see Real Betis playing before an empty crowd either.
Atletico Madrid then? Nope.
Athletic Bilbao perhaps? Nope.
I think I've mentioned packed and heaving bars before - well maybe I'm just lucky when I fly out there.
Are Starbucks empty in Spain? Genuine question by the way - they serve overpriced coffee as a brand. Can someone here who is actually in Spain pop to their local Starbucks and post a pic? It may actually be empty (and prove me wrong) but I have my doubts..
Of course this doesn't mean there aren't a lot of youngsters without long-term stable work in their area, particularly in the south/ Andalucia. But, as I've said, there are a lot of hard-working and talented Spanish out there who will resolve the situation. Despite the best efforts of some who waste no opportunity to badmouth a whole nation.
For a start, we have half a million politicians on high salaries and with life pensions from each post they have held. They claim generous expenses on top of that. One of our PP councillors here is only in her 30s but she is already clocking up nearly €50k a year while her neighbours are living on snared rabbits and edible thistles. It's quite obscene.