How do you define fluent?
Sep 10th 2009 | 10:00 pm
#46
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Re: How do you define fluent?
I dont quite understand this quote, is it saying that some posters are pretending to be Spanish, but their English is so good that it is suspect????
That is what is called an English education . Surley kids that go to school in England should be able to read, write and speak English after going through the system, I thought that was the point of sending children to school.
I have com across lots of English in the costas who have lived here for ages and they do not speak Spanish.
They dont need to because everywhere you go (almost) folks speak English.
That did not happen in the UK 20 odd years ago, a Spanish kid just arriving had to learn, no choice.
Had to go to school and was quite often the only foreign kid in the school.
I presume that the posters on here who have children will one day find themselves in the same position, their children will be born in England, probably have a kind of a Spanish accent, know all there is to know about Spain and know more about the celebs here than in the UK.
They even may class their local Spanish footy team as their own, is that so hard to understand?? To me it seems logical.
I am sure that some posters on here know that I am Spainsh but I do know a lot about the UK because, I did live there for more years than I have been in Spain.
And as I did not live in a cultural vacuum, this is how I turned out.
It seems strange that is what most folks are striving for, for their own children but when they see the proof of it, all some can do is write snotty comments on this forum
That is what is called an English education . Surley kids that go to school in England should be able to read, write and speak English after going through the system, I thought that was the point of sending children to school.
I have com across lots of English in the costas who have lived here for ages and they do not speak Spanish.
They dont need to because everywhere you go (almost) folks speak English.
That did not happen in the UK 20 odd years ago, a Spanish kid just arriving had to learn, no choice.
Had to go to school and was quite often the only foreign kid in the school.
I presume that the posters on here who have children will one day find themselves in the same position, their children will be born in England, probably have a kind of a Spanish accent, know all there is to know about Spain and know more about the celebs here than in the UK.
They even may class their local Spanish footy team as their own, is that so hard to understand?? To me it seems logical.
I am sure that some posters on here know that I am Spainsh but I do know a lot about the UK because, I did live there for more years than I have been in Spain.
And as I did not live in a cultural vacuum, this is how I turned out.
It seems strange that is what most folks are striving for, for their own children but when they see the proof of it, all some can do is write snotty comments on this forum
Sep 10th 2009 | 10:03 pm
#47
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Re: How do you define fluent?
I dont quite understand this quote, is it saying that some posters are pretending to be Spanish, but their English is so good that it is suspect????
That is what is called an English education . Surley kids that go to school in England should be able to read, write and speak English after going through the system, I thought that was the point of sending children to school.
I have com across lots of English in the costas who have lived here for ages and they do not speak Spanish.
They dont need to because everywhere you go (almost) folks speak English.
That did not happen in the UK 20 odd years ago, a Spanish kid just arriving had to learn, no choice.
Had to go to school and was quite often the only foreign kid in the school.
I presume that the posters on here who have children will one day find themselves in the same position, their children will be born in England, probably have a kind of a Spanish accent, know all there is to know about Spain and know more about the celebs here than in the UK.
They even may class their local Spanish footy team as their own, is that so hard to understand?? To me it seems logical.
I am sure that some posters on here know that I am Spainsh but I do know a lot about the UK because, I did live there for more years than I have been in Spain.
And as I did not live in a cultural vacuum, this is how I turned out.
It seems strange that is what most folks are striving for, for their own children but when they see the proof of it, all some can do is write snotty comments on this forum
That is what is called an English education . Surley kids that go to school in England should be able to read, write and speak English after going through the system, I thought that was the point of sending children to school.
I have com across lots of English in the costas who have lived here for ages and they do not speak Spanish.
They dont need to because everywhere you go (almost) folks speak English.
That did not happen in the UK 20 odd years ago, a Spanish kid just arriving had to learn, no choice.
Had to go to school and was quite often the only foreign kid in the school.
I presume that the posters on here who have children will one day find themselves in the same position, their children will be born in England, probably have a kind of a Spanish accent, know all there is to know about Spain and know more about the celebs here than in the UK.
They even may class their local Spanish footy team as their own, is that so hard to understand?? To me it seems logical.
I am sure that some posters on here know that I am Spainsh but I do know a lot about the UK because, I did live there for more years than I have been in Spain.
And as I did not live in a cultural vacuum, this is how I turned out.
It seems strange that is what most folks are striving for, for their own children but when they see the proof of it, all some can do is write snotty comments on this forum
even I struggle sometimes to remember the english word for something we habitually use the spanish word for
Sep 10th 2009 | 10:06 pm
#48
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Re: How do you define fluent?
and so can the rest of us
Sep 10th 2009 | 10:23 pm
#49
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Re: How do you define fluent?
Everyone else is just stupid or lying to her. I think it is at about 5 years old when children learn that they are not the centre of the universe and other people have experiences and opinions that are different to theirs for valid reasons. I think it is called empathy.
I guess some people never get beyond that point
Sep 10th 2009 | 10:54 pm
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Re: How do you define fluent?
Even a bi-lingual person (I know quite a few) falls down over colloquialisms. I know what I am talking about. Think what you like but I shall pop in when I want to make a point. Some do agree with me.
You can fool some of the people...blah blah
You can fool some of the people...blah blah
Sep 10th 2009 | 11:35 pm
#52
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Re: How do you define fluent?
There are enough disagreements in this forum about Spain vs UK without bringing even the slightest tinge of it into this thread, thank you very much.
Sep 11th 2009 | 12:23 am
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Re: How do you define fluent?
If JLFS is Spanish then I`d say his/her English is very good even with the rambling on about driving a car
Sep 11th 2009 | 1:14 am
#54
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Re: How do you define fluent?
Well you don´t seem to know much about the "real Spain". Please tell us your story and explain how you know the real Spain.
Sep 11th 2009 | 1:42 am
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Re: How do you define fluent?
All the Andalusians don't have the same accent. In fact, the onubenses (inhabitants of Huelva province) of the north area, they have Castilian accent. Nothing of andalusian. I am not andalusian, but I made the military service in Cordoba
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Sep 11th 2009 | 1:52 am
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Re: How do you define fluent?
The majority Onubenses don´t speak with a castillian accent.
Sep 11th 2009 | 1:56 am
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Re: How do you define fluent?
Sep 11th 2009 | 2:19 am
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Re: How do you define fluent?
if they have lived in, are planning to live in spain, or have ties with both the UK & spain, they have opinions & experiences relevant to this forum
wherever they were born...................
Sep 11th 2009 | 2:24 am
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Re: How do you define fluent?
I suppose it a compliment is in a sort of backhanded way. Although I know she did not mean it as a compliment, it was a remark meant to heat things up on this forum.
