Holiday home
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Hi I’m new to all this and feel a little out of my depth.
Me and my wife visited two weeks ago, viewed 6 apartments (a drip in the ocean) anyway one stood out and we put an offer in.... it was accepted great news!!! I now have the headache of sorting NIE and Bank account, I don’t feel I can trust anyone I speak to, as it feels everyone just wants to be cut in, also the estate agent is putting pressure on to pay a deposit then 10% within a time frame I’m not comfortable with, just wondering how long this process should take.
To be honest reading some of these forms about brexit is putting me right off the idea at the moment
Me and my wife visited two weeks ago, viewed 6 apartments (a drip in the ocean) anyway one stood out and we put an offer in.... it was accepted great news!!! I now have the headache of sorting NIE and Bank account, I don’t feel I can trust anyone I speak to, as it feels everyone just wants to be cut in, also the estate agent is putting pressure on to pay a deposit then 10% within a time frame I’m not comfortable with, just wondering how long this process should take.
To be honest reading some of these forms about brexit is putting me right off the idea at the moment
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Then withdraw your offer, don't pay anything to anyone, and sit back and have a good think about what you really want to do.
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My thoughts exactly.
Never pay the agent any money! He doesn't need a holding fee! Pay any deposit via your lawyer but ONLY when you're sure it's what you want to do.
Never pay the agent any money! He doesn't need a holding fee! Pay any deposit via your lawyer but ONLY when you're sure it's what you want to do.
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Hello Mickeyfish
If you can't hack it and get streetwise Spain is not for you. Spain is not namby-pamby UK.
If you can't hack it and get streetwise Spain is not for you. Spain is not namby-pamby UK.
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Hi I’m new to all this and feel a little out of my depth.
Me and my wife visited two weeks ago, viewed 6 apartments (a drip in the ocean) anyway one stood out and we put an offer in.... it was accepted great news!!! I now have the headache of sorting NIE and Bank account, I don’t feel I can trust anyone I speak to, as it feels everyone just wants to be cut in, also the estate agent is putting pressure on to pay a deposit then 10% within a time frame I’m not comfortable with, just wondering how long this process should take.
To be honest reading some of these forms about brexit is putting me right off the idea at the moment
Me and my wife visited two weeks ago, viewed 6 apartments (a drip in the ocean) anyway one stood out and we put an offer in.... it was accepted great news!!! I now have the headache of sorting NIE and Bank account, I don’t feel I can trust anyone I speak to, as it feels everyone just wants to be cut in, also the estate agent is putting pressure on to pay a deposit then 10% within a time frame I’m not comfortable with, just wondering how long this process should take.
To be honest reading some of these forms about brexit is putting me right off the idea at the moment
If buying I would get an independent lawyer before paying any money or signing any contracts. The lawyer will probably rewrite the agents contract so that you aren't disadvantaged. You can open your own bank account using your passport and the lawyer can arrange for your NIE for a small fee. (we paid €50)
I wouldn't worry too much about Brexit.
Is this a permanent move or a holiday home? **EDIT just seen title - Then I definitely wouldn't worry about Brexit! (We have a holiday home and enjoy flitting between the UK & Spain....Best of both worlds)
Good luck
Last edited by bolton wanderer; Oct 2nd 2018 at 11:17 pm. Reason: just seen title
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The 10/% holding deposit is not unusual Spain has a different system to the UK. However although it may be the estate agent prompting you the deposit should be paid to your legal advisor not estate agent, this may be the case for you and simply a misunderstanding.
Here is a link that may help you with how the process works.
https://www.imslawyers.com/buying-in...rocess-stages/
Here is a link that may help you with how the process works.
https://www.imslawyers.com/buying-in...rocess-stages/
#7
Paying an initial holding deposit via your lawyer is quite normal, paying more via your lawyer at a later date is also not unusual, indeed some of our friends are selling up and have just received there 2nd deposit, it all shows that you are not wasting everyone's time which it sounds like you maybe?
If you are unsure then walk away but let everyone know so they can move on
If you are unsure then walk away but let everyone know so they can move on
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Paying an initial holding deposit via your lawyer is quite normal, paying more via your lawyer at a later date is also not unusual, indeed some of our friends are selling up and have just received there 2nd deposit, it all shows that you are not wasting everyone's time which it sounds like you maybe?
If you are unsure then walk away but let everyone know so they can move on
If you are unsure then walk away but let everyone know so they can move on
Another main problem in Spain is getting a good lawyer to do a meticulous job. Spain lawyers are renowned for being the good, the bad and the ugly. When you find out after purchase that your property has no licence, is an illegal build, has someone else’s debts and mortgage attached to it, the standard answer is you did not ask.
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All that stuff is bloody easy to find out. Especially for someone who does it everyday. Someone would have to have some serious motivation to withhold that information from you.
That's why it's never a good idea to use the seller's agent, gestor, or lawyer to conduct the due diligence. But even then, it would be illegal for a lawyer or gestor to deliberately withhold that information from you.
That's why it's never a good idea to use the seller's agent, gestor, or lawyer to conduct the due diligence. But even then, it would be illegal for a lawyer or gestor to deliberately withhold that information from you.
#10
If you take the time to understand the rules and regulations it is no more (or less) difficult or problematic to buy in Spain. There are just as many pitfalls and crooks in suits and charlatans trying to get their hands on your money when you buy in the UK.
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It is an industry that is either badly regulated or not regulated at all; and therefore attracts many thieves and con men. The Krays could open an estate agents tomorrow and the authorities would not be interested (UK and Spain).
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If you're unsure, rent first. It will cost you over 20% of the cost of the property to sell and buy again if you get it wrong. I would rent for a few months out of season to get a feel for the area and you may find a real bargain while your living over here.
If buying I would get an independent lawyer before paying any money or signing any contracts. The lawyer will probably rewrite the agents contract so that you aren't disadvantaged. You can open your own bank account using your passport and the lawyer can arrange for your NIE for a small fee. (we paid €50)
I wouldn't worry too much about Brexit.
Is this a permanent move or a holiday home? **EDIT just seen title - Then I definitely wouldn't worry about Brexit! (We have a holiday home and enjoy flitting between the UK & Spain....Best of both worlds)
Good luck
If buying I would get an independent lawyer before paying any money or signing any contracts. The lawyer will probably rewrite the agents contract so that you aren't disadvantaged. You can open your own bank account using your passport and the lawyer can arrange for your NIE for a small fee. (we paid €50)
I wouldn't worry too much about Brexit.
Is this a permanent move or a holiday home? **EDIT just seen title - Then I definitely wouldn't worry about Brexit! (We have a holiday home and enjoy flitting between the UK & Spain....Best of both worlds)
Good luck
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So have you residency documents Bolton? Just interested as am starting the process myself and thought I should go for residency to help protect against Brexit. However stuff I read suggests if I go for residency I have to pay different tax, get a spanish driving license, do this do that etc.. But like you I just want the flexibilty to come and go.
At the moment the EU has free movement of EU nationals and it’s not difficult to see that this Spanish residency nonsense is purely to rope you into the Spanish tax system (although there are ways round it).
On the BREXIT thing, this subject will all be a storm in a teacup. Apart from house building and tourism what else has Spain got, maybe football and the odd bullfight. Spain would let the mad axe man in if he had €100 to spend.
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So have you residency documents Bolton? Just interested as am starting the process myself and thought I should go for residency to help protect against Brexit. However stuff I read suggests if I go for residency I have to pay different tax, get a spanish driving license, do this do that etc.. But like you I just want the flexibilty to come and go.
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Ok thank-you. Yes that makes sense. It would probably suit me too initially but I guess it does split up your year into 4 very distinct, scheduled quarters!



