Dick Dasterdly

So says Ami without a single scrap of evidence to show that was the case.

Not one of the groups advocating Leave ever mentioned or proposed "Stopping immigration" as you imply.

Indeed they simply asked that would be immigrants from countries outside the EU should be given equal consideration to those belonging to it, in order to get the best for the country and religion was never considered or mentioned as being a contributory factor in that proposal, except of course in the minds of those desperate to cast a slur on the Leave campaign.

amideislas

Dick, you, the express addict, of all people should know this better than anyone. I always said that after the fact, the leavers would deny it all. It seems I was right about that too.

I (amongst others) have offered the indisputable evidence of this ad-nauseum. I can't be bothered to regurgitate it again.

Go home. Get some sleep.

newpower

What world do you live in?
So sad that the bigots have had their day.

Dick Dasterdly

Indisputable evidence.

Not one single scrap of evidence have you provided that any of the Leave groups ever mentioned or proposed " Stopping Immigration" as you claim.

On the contrary they did propose granting equal immigration rights to citizens from all countries, rather than having those outside the EU classed as second or third class citizens as is the case under present EU policy.

Your attempted slur campaign failed miserably, as did the unfounded Project Fear.
Most people could see straight through it.
You lost, get over it.

There is absolutely no point in trying to resurrect it or bring it back from the dead now, except possibly sour grapes, but I can't for one moment believe that would be the case.

newpower

So you read the Mail, we understand how you dont want to listen to any other opinion.

Dick Dasterdly

I am happy to listen to all opinions as the array of my recent links from left, right and centre will confirm.

However if opinions like your own and Ami's don't have a scrap of credible evidence to back them up, then please pardon me if I'm I inclined to dismiss them as irrelevant.

bobd22

Dick whilst yes the actual out campaign re imigration was pretty much as you say based upon the fact that freedom of movement in the EU allowed basically any EU passport holder into the uk it discriminated against those from outside the EU and they allegedly wanted a simple points based system for all. But what about the extreme morons from the out side who after the result used that to tell imigrants they were no longer welcome and should leave the country? My guess is these same people would have voted out wanting all imigrants out. Let's be honest unfortunately there were some right wing factions within the UK, likes of BNP, English Defence League types that attached their vote and views to the out campaign. I am not saying all out voters or campaigners Fall into this category by any means but certainly some do.The problem now is to carry out the wishes of the voting majority but in a fair civilised manner hopefully to the benefit of all in the country and taking into account that there were 48% wishing to stay with the EU. No easy task for any government.

amideislas

The bigger they come, the harder they fall.

I think you might do yourself a favour by setting your expectations a bit lower. The emerging facts in all of this are not particularly encouraging.

rachelk

Uk is talking about fixing a date after which new EU arrivals cannot have permanent residency rights. This may well be reciprocated for new Uk migrants to the EU. Work visa to stay for a few years, but no permanent residency rights. There are so many brits living happily, permanently in Spain and other EU countries now, I think it would be sad of others in the future were denied that possibility under new Brexit defined agreements.

bobd22

I believe there are many possibilities being speculated but at the moment no one knows what changes may be agreed. At the moment we are still members of the EU with no changes whatsoever. I will just wait until the notice to leave the EU has been submitted and see what the follow on negotiations bring on conclusion. We can only work on what is finally agreed good bad or indifferent , everything before that is speculation.

retireteed

I assume you're a Trump supporter and dismiss Climate Change as nonsense, as the ostrich from beneath the sand sees no credible evidence either.
Perhaps you still believe Iraq had weapons of mass detruction?

Dick Dasterdly

Sorry to disappoint you, but Non of the above applies.

However please feel free to continue, I'm sure your vivid imagination can cook up a few more.

retireteed

Thanks for the compliment.

But you're still an ostrich with your head in the sand and your ass sticking way up in the air. The fact that you can't see your ass up in the air does not mean that it's not there.

Show me some credible evidence that the Leave campaign was not based on fear, immigration and hate. I bet you can't, ostrich.

Rosemary

Wind your necks back in please and stop with the personality analogies.

Rosemary

Dick Dasterdly

I take your point Dave, though whether there would have been enough to affect the result is extremely doubtful.
There are no accurate figures available, but most estimates only number them in the thousands and as you can see when they arrange a demo their active numbers are miniscule.

However with regard to the referendum result, counter these numbers with those who actually fell for all the lies, threats and deceit of the fear campaign, especially the vulnerable old folk who were deliberately targeted late on in the campaign and add to that the effect of direct threats and consequences eminating from Brussels and Germany and quite possibly the winning Leave margin could have been much greater.