Healthcare in Spain after the UK leaves EU
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Re: Healthcare in Spain after the UK leaves EU
Farage's resignations tend to mean very little maybe this time he has his eye on a better earner! As for the Brexit people being very anti any protest from the remainers that is very true. Of course had Brexit lost they would have simply accepted such a narrow majority quietly! I think not. I am sure many would wish to just ignore the vote and remain but don't see that happening, then you would see protests and given some of the right wing elements not as peaceful as the remain march last weekend.
Whether the UK actually leave the EU depends on the divorce negotiations between the EU and UK, mainly over the passporting of Euro trade
If the EU do not allow the city of London to do any trade in Euros then the UK will not leave the EU as London would lose a third of its trade overnight.
I expect the negotiations to drag on for a year or two, and the Brexit will finally be cancelled when the polls show that the anti-Brexit propaganda is working, but of course this also depends on internal politics within the Tory party, which is what the EU referendum was mainly about
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Re: Healthcare in Spain after the UK leaves EU
Greatly revised terms of proposed continuing membership of the EU will evolve as the Brexit negotiations take shape in the coming years. I suspect these terms will be so significantly different from those voted on in June as to merit another vote, say in June 2018 along the lines of - still out, or back in under the revised terms.
#18
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Like many people I am still hoping for a reverse of Brexit - but that is looking less likely.
I was just wondering what the impact on healthcare will be for UK passport holders - both those already in Spain (who I assume will be OK) and those moving there post Brexit. It will also be different for those below and above state retirement age.
Much has been talked about the UK following the Norway model - how do Norwegians living in Spain access healthcare??
The flip side is how EU nationals access healthcare in the UK and I am hoping for some kind of reciprocal arrangement.
I was just wondering what the impact on healthcare will be for UK passport holders - both those already in Spain (who I assume will be OK) and those moving there post Brexit. It will also be different for those below and above state retirement age.
Much has been talked about the UK following the Norway model - how do Norwegians living in Spain access healthcare??
The flip side is how EU nationals access healthcare in the UK and I am hoping for some kind of reciprocal arrangement.
Over the years with natural reductions the UK healthcare bill will reduce accordingly. I would still take my chances and move out here.
Steve
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IMHO I think those who have lived here before the actual Brexit will keep the healthcare arrangements and those wishing to live in Spain after Brexit will have to arrange their own healthcare.
Over the years with natural reductions the UK healthcare bill will reduce accordingly. I would still take my chances and move out here.
Steve
Over the years with natural reductions the UK healthcare bill will reduce accordingly. I would still take my chances and move out here.
Steve
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There were 253,928 Britons on the padron at 1st January 2016, the majority were pensioners. It would not be an overwhelming burden for the UK to continue contributing towards their health care, given that the burden would reduce with time. Whether the UK would be willing to pay for new arrivals is another question. But this is just speculation.
The bigger danger surely is that the 27 members are unlikely to agree among themselves on terms for Britain´s exit, each leader wanting something different for domestic electoral purposes. The UK would be unwise to start the countdown towards exit with the very real possibility of no agreed deal at the end of negotiations.
The bigger danger surely is that the 27 members are unlikely to agree among themselves on terms for Britain´s exit, each leader wanting something different for domestic electoral purposes. The UK would be unwise to start the countdown towards exit with the very real possibility of no agreed deal at the end of negotiations.
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Not a discussion on expat health care but state pensions in this link. Some interesting and quite scary views including by someone calling themselves oldcodger explains their views on here before disappearing! http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/haveyoursay/2010/03/should_expats_receive_a_uk_pen.html
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Not a discussion on expat health care but state pensions in this link. Some interesting and quite scary views including by someone calling themselves oldcodger explains their views on here before disappearing! BBC - Have Your Say: Should expats receive a UK pension?
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I think earlier posters are correct those with existing rights will continue those arriving after 'the door is shut' (assuming it will be) will not get the same rights as new arrivals.
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weird one isn't it should we stay or should we go........
strangely whichever way we go half the country will be angry..........
strangely whichever way we go half the country will be angry..........
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Where some of my friends live they had referendum on an issue but the government voted against it! The people just accepted it.
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just read that it doesn't need to go before Parliament - still a long way to go and with companies like Easyjet announcing they may move their HQ into Europe lots of things may happen.
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There are legal arguments being put forward at the moment to say that the decision to invoke Article 50 must be made by parliament. It is entirely possible that parliament, being about 65% against Brexit, could vote it down.
Even if the legal argument is lost, parliament still has to repeal the original act that gave Britain membership of the then Common Market. There are also legal arguments that the referendum was itself illegal as the reason Cameron set it up was purely to increase his chances of being elected at the last election.
It would be unwise to assume that Brexit is a foregone conclusion. There are many legal arguments out there to prevent it ever happening.
Even if the legal argument is lost, parliament still has to repeal the original act that gave Britain membership of the then Common Market. There are also legal arguments that the referendum was itself illegal as the reason Cameron set it up was purely to increase his chances of being elected at the last election.
It would be unwise to assume that Brexit is a foregone conclusion. There are many legal arguments out there to prevent it ever happening.
Last edited by Fred James; Jul 5th 2016 at 8:35 pm.