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Old May 29th 2018 | 9:52 pm
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So basically myself and my wife currently rent a home in the U.K., we have been saving for a deposit and we will soon hit our target of £50k. After our last couple of holidays to Spain and canaries we have thought against buying in the U.K. As it will most likely take us past retirement age to pay off the house, so instead have thought about buying a home in Spain. Initially this woul our holiday home 4-5 times per year and rent out to family and friends at other times with a view to move permanently when retirement age hits. I have spoken to an Spanish estate agent who has told me all abouhow the mortgage system works in Spain and taxes and has advised me to have 30% deposit minimum plus and extra 14% for taxes etc. Does anyone have any recommendations of areas to live , I don't want too far from the coast as I want to appeal to friends and family to use but also don't wanna be smack in the middle of Blackpool in the sun (no offence intended).
 
Old May 29th 2018 | 11:44 pm
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You would need to give a bit more information to get answers. Eg, would you live in Spanish speaking village? What regions would you consider?
 
Old May 30th 2018 | 12:03 am
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Originally Posted by cermignano
You would need to give a bit more information to get answers. Eg, would you live in Spanish speaking village? What regions would you consider?
in terms of region I'll be liking from Valencia to Malaga. I would like a snish speaking village as I can converse in Spanish however myife can't, also I'd like it to appeal to family members short term so would like somewhere close to the coast. Other than that I'd like the canaries but I am aware that the cost of living is vastly more expensive over there.
 
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So basically myself and my wife currently rent a home in the U.K., we have been saving for a deposit and we will soon hit our target of £50k. After our last couple of holidays to Spain and canaries we have thought against buying in the U.K. As it will most likely take us past retirement age to pay off the house, so instead have thought about buying a home in Spain. Initially this woul our holiday home 4-5 times per year and rent out to family and friends at other times with a view to move permanently when retirement age hits. I have spoken to an Spanish estate agent who has told me all abouhow the mortgage system works in Spain and taxes and has advised me to have 30% deposit minimum plus and extra 14% for taxes etc. Does anyone have any recommendations of areas to live , I don't want too far from the coast as I want to appeal to friends and family to use but also don't wanna be smack in the middle of Blackpool in the sun (no offence intended).
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The generally held opinion is that you should "try before you buy" ie rent in a couple of areas to see if it is compatible with you. Purchasing should be a long term decision as selling in Spain can be difficult and you can end up with a serious white elephant. I would bet that there are a lot of ex-pats in that position - living somewhere they hate, beside the neighbours from hell etc because they cannot sell their home.
 
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Originally Posted by Villagaz7
So basically myself and my wife currently rent a home in the U.K., we have been saving for a deposit and we will soon hit our target of £50k. After our last couple of holidays to Spain and canaries we have thought against buying in the U.K. As it will most likely take us past retirement age to pay off the house, so instead have thought about buying a home in Spain. Initially this woul our holiday home 4-5 times per year and rent out to family and friends at other times with a view to move permanently when retirement age hits. I have spoken to an Spanish estate agent who has told me all abouhow the mortgage system works in Spain and taxes and has advised me to have 30% deposit minimum plus and extra 14% for taxes etc. Does anyone have any recommendations of areas to live , I don't want too far from the coast as I want to appeal to friends and family to use but also don't wanna be smack in the middle of Blackpool in the sun (no offence intended).
All good, but how long will it take to hit retirement age? If you buy in Spain, you'll still be renting in the UK and also paying a mortgage in Spain. It usually makes more sense to have a mortgage in the place you actually work and live. While some people can give you ideas of areas, doesn't mean it will actually suit you for retirement and places can change too. As you mentioned Canaries (depends which island), a lot of people are also not made for smaller islands and get bored very quickly.
 
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All good, but how long will it take to hit retirement age? If you buy in Spain, you'll still be renting in the UK and also paying a mortgage in Spain. It usually makes more sense to have a mortgage in the place you actually work and live. While some people can give you ideas of areas, doesn't mean it will actually suit you for retirement and places can change too. As you mentioned Canaries (depends which island), a lot of people are also not made for smaller islands and get bored very quickly.
its 20 years for me to retirement, hence planning ahead now. I have family tha have bought on Costa del sol but they were lucky enough to relocate jobs too. I however don't have that luxury. I appreciate that ermine will have their own opinion on where is a good place or not however I'm keen to hear about experiences that folk on here have had whether that be positive or negative. I'm not one for big tourist places hence you'd never find me in Benidorm or torremolinos not saying they not nice places but for me I like more authentic when I travel to Spain, paella over pie and chips any day of the week.
 
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There are many lovely resorts, towns and villages between Valencia and Malaga. However, nearish to an airport might suit your family and friends. Murcia airport has lots of places not too far away. Gorgeous resorts and villages east of Malaga too. As previously said try before you buy. Have fun exploring.
 
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Originally Posted by Villagaz7


its 20 years for me to retirement, hence planning ahead now. I have family tha have bought on Costa del sol but they were lucky enough to relocate jobs too. I however don't have that luxury. I appreciate that ermine will have their own opinion on where is a good place or not however I'm keen to hear about experiences that folk on here have had whether that be positive or negative. I'm not one for big tourist places hence you'd never find me in Benidorm or torremolinos not saying they not nice places but for me I like more authentic when I travel to Spain, paella over pie and chips any day of the week.
Of course it all depends on price, but even if you haven't paid off your mortgage in the UK in the next 10 years, you still haven't wasted money on rent and have built
up equity. Prices in Spain are currently very high too and will probably drop dramatically again anyway, especially with an ageing population and people who can't afford due to low wages. Although we also bought, we just went for a plot of land as it was still cheap a few years ago and it also gives you time to see if you really like the area. Depending on land regulations, just stick a modular unit on it now and build once your ready.

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Originally Posted by Moses2013
Prices in Spain are currently very high too
Really?? Prices don't seem high to me.

There again I live in London so all property seems cheap.
 
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Originally Posted by Moses2013
Prices in Spain are currently very high too and will probably drop dramatically again anyway, especially with an ageing population and people who can't afford due to low wages.
Properties in many areas are cheap ----> for expats and in the majority of places haven't recovered from the crash a decade ago.
I think what Moses is referring to is the prices compared to the salaries of 30 somethings that can't afford to get on the property ladder here.

The only thing I would add to that, is that expats generally are buying different properties. The Spanish generally aren't buying Villas or Holiday apartments in Denia or Altea.
So the fact that the average young Spaniard is struggling to afford an apartment in Bilbao/A Coruña/Malaga/Sevilla/Valencia isn't really going to effect the Villa market etc.

Basically I wouldn't want a mortgage in a different currency to the one I had am income/salary in. Changes in currency values could make that mortgage cheap or suddenly unaffordable! You have no idea what the value of the pound will be after Brexit.
 
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Properties in many areas are cheap ----> for expats and in the majority of places haven't recovered from the crash a decade ago.
I think what Moses is referring to is the prices compared to the salaries of 30 somethings that can't afford to get on the property ladder here.

The only thing I would add to that, is that expats generally are buying different properties. The Spanish generally aren't buying Villas or Holiday apartments in Denia or Altea.
So the fact that the average young Spaniard is struggling to afford an apartment in Bilbao/A Coruña/Malaga/Sevilla/Valencia isn't really going to effect the Villa market etc.

Basically I wouldn't want a mortgage in a different currency to the one I had am income/salary in. Changes in currency values could make that mortgage cheap or suddenly unaffordable! You have no idea what the value of the pound will be after Brexit.
That's the point. Even if the Spanish person isn't buying the villa or apartment in Denia, you still need people from elsewhere to buy these properties. Even in the so called wealthier European countries, people are struggling to get by and won't have the money to afford 2nd homes, especially if all the money is already gone on the mortgage back home. I agree that exclusive properties, seafront villas and certain locations will always be very attractive, but so many locations will see prices drop like it has been before. As said, consider the ageing population and huge amount of pensioners in certain locations, the economy in Europe, UK leaving EU, which means tax hikes for owning property and stricter mortgage regulations for non residents.
 

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