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Fred all you have to do is, download FilmOn and register. Select the channel you want, and under the small screen, you will see two arrows (left & right), with a record button. Press the right hand arrow 'till the program you want to record appears, and click on the record button. Job Done!

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:)

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The terms and conditions of NowTV state that you need a SKY ID. ?

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Is there a law on here about giving people information about Free TV..

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If it is a site that is at the very least questionable, then if not against the law it is morally dubious.

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Ah just like Sky TV.:thumbsup:

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Yes I know that but you only get a limited amount of time before you have to pay and I am not prepared to pay their exorbitant prices.

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Of course you need an ID or they wouldn't know who you are but you don't need to have an existing Sky subscription.

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It depends on the legality of it.

The site rules do not allow links to illegal sites.

3. Links to Inappropriate Content
Links to adult content, pages with links to adult content, near adult content, warez, hate sites or messages describing anything against the law is not allowed and will be removed.

The jury is out on Internet streaming at the moment as it isn't clear exactly what sites are legal or not after the ECJ ruling and some sites may obtain permission from the rights holders.

Discussion of the really illegal stuff like card sharing systems is definitely not allowed.

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You get 10 hours of free space, so you record, watch and delete.
That space is re-usable!!!!!!!!

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Hi Fred I hope (and am sure) that this ruling also applies to your advertisers too, that give you money!

This was advertised on this forum : Watch live UK channels, anywhere in the world, direct to your TV!
http://www.ex-pat.tv/

It looks something like a slingbox, but they say no PC is needed... Looks like a couple of boxes at each end one side similar to Slingbox, and a converter at the other end that you plug your TV to.

For my slingbox, I connect my TV to the PC via HDMI and watch perfectly acceptable video full screen - wherever I am.

Can anyone confirm that

1: This is legal

2: If it a good product..... at 20 quid a month - in 4 months you have a slingbox - so I am even happier I got mine!

Unless I am missing something. More info on Slingbox see my previous posts on this thread.

Jon

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That sounds like a better deal!

You didn't answer my question about where it stores the programme -as I said, if it is stored on the PC (like BBC iPlayer does) download speed is not so important.

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Is,nt Expat TV one of those who hides your location ???.
Do they have rights to broadcast UK TV ?

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Try it and find out, that's part of the fun. Life can be full of surprises! :)

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Hi Fred

I see you've been on this thread since I posted 411 on expat-TV.

You didn't answer my question about the legality of this product 'you' (The BE Xpat forum) are advertising. I ask only as you are a moderator - and told us the rules recently - as part of your official capacity.

Thanks
Jon

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I have one of them and i pay €30 a month..Dont know if its legal..

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This is my setup..1 internet 2 TV box 3 TV.

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I'm not really involved in this discussion but did nobody see the news item about Fox and its attempt to stop a small start up stealing its signal
More details here ..http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-...ave-network-TV

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It's just another set top box that receives streaming TV over the Internet. There are loads of them about, all overpriced.

There is nothing illegal about the principle of streaming - it just depends on whether the providers of the material have permission to use it and I have no idea whether they have or not. To my knowledge there is nothing illegal about using it either.

Incidentally I am pretty sure that all these streams come from the same source and these companies just buy the access to the stream and resell it.

Until such time as they become proved to be illegal I can see no reason why they cant be discussed.

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Yes this thread is helping people to find internet TV that works..they switched us of in parts of the Canary Isles... It can happen to Spain too.

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Fox is owned by News International who own Sky

http://www.ibtimes.com/why-aereo-suc...tworks-1180821

I note you use the word "stealing" which is what all the heated discussion in the 4 or 5 other threads has been all about.
This isn't a case of the "little man" being squeezed out. It is a case of a little man stealing their transmissions and rebroadcasting it - at the moment, for free.
But the point is that as I have said on this subject here and elsewhere that the problem is that people are "stealing" then rebroadcasting it with an access charge/subscription to unsuspecting private individuals.

If Fox have a major turnround in their business plan then so will others follow, including Sky. They will pump their wealth into the same technology others are using against them to make sure they retain the IP they have put so much money into creating.

At the end of the day it will be the man in the street who will lose out with electronic boundaries ringfenced to stop this theft of IP.

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There is probably a 20 year old nerd who lives at home, does not have a gilrfriend and lives on takeaway Pizza who is the initial Signal Stealer. He is not worried about money or how much others are making it is just being able to break into sites that intrigues him.

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We just bought an Android TV box for €69, and I have to say, it's a brilliant little appliance - there is an app for just about all the "internet TV" providers - legal or not.

But we have satellite, and the quality is dramatically better than any of the internet TV providers, so we don't really use "internet TV" (except for our own music, photos, and videos-copied-to-hard disk). But the other features the Android TV box offers are really great - especially for the price.

But illegal, it most certainly isn't.

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sounds a bit like some of the work I used to do for the Govt.
oops, now I will have to kill the lot of you
:rofl:

but I think many of the organisations are more sophisticated than that. you would need to be able to match the adverts to see where it is being taken from as there are regional variations in their insertion.

but then there was a big shakeout in the online music streaming arena due to startups who took several streams and mixed them to alter the play order.
But they weren't paying anything to the copyright holder for performing rights.

But then many expats couldn't care less about this either.
:frown:

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Hi Just received THIS Text from Mark at SKY REALM.
Just letting you know that IF we lose BBC ITV etc etc We have
a fix.:) Its by Satellite. So no internet or subscription Needed
Unquote....
:thumbsup::starsmile::thumbsup::starsmile::thumbsu p:

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Youre going to start a whole new set of posts with this. :) :) When you have more details pls let us know... Im sure there will be a charge too so look forward to hearing more details (hopr its not internet by sat).

But good news if the details work...

Jon

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Hi,
I looked up Sky Realm and got this but suspect I'm a little off the mark. :eek: Can you advise what or who is Sky Realm? Thanks.

(ps. I am a little sceptical at the claim, by the way. :huh:)

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A major event happened yesterday which could delay the potential loss of channels in the Ayamonte region.

The satellite that the current BBC/ITV/Ch4 and other channels would be (probably) moved to, Astra 2E, was due to be launched in around 3 weeks time at the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan.

Unfortunately, a rocket launch has gone badly wrong causing chaos at this facility.
More details and dramatic pictures at the BBC

First thoughts are that this event will cause a 2-3 month delay in the implementation of any changes.

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Goodness me, no UK TV. What a sad state of affairs:amen:

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OK so there has been a problem at Baikonur resulting in the loss of 3 GPS satellites. This may well mean a lengthy delay in the SES satellite launch.

But the current satellite is still in place, still working and there should be no loss in the services currently being transmitted.
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Just out of interest, why should the loss of 3 Russian GPS satellites affect the launch of the SES satellite? Unless the rocket crashed back into the launch site.

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Basically, that's exactly what happened dropping 500 tonnes of poisonous fuel over the launch site although I believe the rocket itself missed the site. Also, the authorities will want to establish what happened before commencing any future launches.

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and there have been a few issues with some previous Proton rockets also...so they will want to check it out before they do any other launches.
There was debris all around the launch site / base, and so they have to clear that before anything else is done. The pad that 2E is scheduled to launch from was undamaged, but it is the toxic debris that is the concern.

I assume they mean they are using the "freeview backup feeds" from intelsat at 27.5 west - which may not be as reliable or a good alternative as they / you think.
These feeds are encrypted, so you will be hacking into them.
And it all depends on the availability of the "keys" to "unlock" the channels - when they last changed the keys people using this system could not use it for several weeks - much to their disappointment. And once it becomes "popular" allt hey have to do is to keep changing the keys at a regular pace - a pain for clients to keep putting in the codes - a 32 digit code is not nice to input each week ! or change to a more secure encryption...rendering the equipment useless.

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I saw the news on TV last night and did wonder what effect it could have.
Astra do have the alternative European launch site so lets no get too excited .

I do feel so sorry though for those publicly minded suppliers who are lining up with their " alternative m very reasonably priced, who know if it will work , packages.
Hoefully we have hard the last of Filmon etc etc for some time.

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I think if necessary they can use Arianne / French Guiana if 2E is really needed to be up their ASAP

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Sky Realm is a sky sat company which operates from Portugal and Spain and has done so for the past 10 years,With a name like Clever Dick you should know this or maybe you should change your name ??
Regards Bill, (my real name );)

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And it's a very long way to ship the satellite so it can be launched from there, even assuming that there is a spare launch vehicle.

It's not like Easyjet!

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well they moved to USSR because it was cheaper..............
but then Ariane had its problems as well
:ohmy:
although this is probably covered by some clause in the contracts I would expect a wait of a week before they can give a positive statement of intent.
it isnt as if 2E is needed to watch goings on in Syria or something

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Never heard of them. I'll have a chat with Satellite Steve when I'm next over.

Guess I'm notsocleverdic then :o

Actually, Dick is my real shortened name and I have no need to change it but for clarity, I will add my real real name as a signature.

Regards, Richard (my real name) :thumbup:

(ps. still sceptical about their claim!!)

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how can someone be a "official Sky installer" when the Sky is a UK service only ??