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Old Nov 21st 2012, 4:49 pm
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Originally Posted by Pocaloca
With the ones who pollute the most, of course!
Thats what I was thinking.... it sort of means us.
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Originally Posted by rugbymatt
Thats what I was thinking.... it sort of means us.
No, we´re just pale pink, let's start with the red ones!




National average per capita CO2 emissions based on OECD/IEA 2006 national CO2 emissions (OECD/IEA, 2008) and UNPD 2006 national population size (UNPD, 2007).
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Old Nov 21st 2012, 4:59 pm
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Originally Posted by Pocaloca
With the ones who pollute the most, of course!
Be nice wouldn't it.....But they will be the hardest to get at!

My view is not to worry too much about global warming/climate change....We know its a fact, its happening.....Whether it is man made is rather a moot point as the window of opportunity to do anything substantially effective is slammed shut....Finito!

So pull up a chair, fill your glass and enjoy the apocalypse. Fred is right, Humans are to blame....The amount of us!

Over 50% of the sub-continent is under 25 and are pumping out little ones by the ton and the demographics are about to overload.

But ‘Mother Earth’ is a self regulatory system and soon the point will arrive where the sheer mass of people will overcome the capability to feed them.
Common sense shows that the prospects for the well being of the human race will rest on food demand.....This will skyrocket, meanwhile ‘Climate change’ will in course make it harder to produce...

I reckon that less food means less people....Soooo, ‘Climate change’ will in fact regulate the population of the Earth and the future of mankind.....

Perhaps we should leave it well alone!
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Old Nov 21st 2012, 5:00 pm
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Originally Posted by Pocaloca
No, we´re just pale pink, let's start with the red ones!


http://www.skepticalscience.com/pics..._emissions.jpg

National average per capita CO2 emissions based on OECD/IEA 2006 national CO2 emissions (OECD/IEA, 2008) and UNPD 2006 national population size (UNPD, 2007).
I was about to say, that map has to be outdated because China are soon to overtake everyone but I see its from 2006 but yeah, pretty much the same today I'd guess.
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Originally Posted by Pocaloca
No, we´re just pale pink, let's start with the red ones!


http://www.skepticalscience.com/pics..._emissions.jpg

National average per capita CO2 emissions based on OECD/IEA 2006 national CO2 emissions (OECD/IEA, 2008) and UNPD 2006 national population size (UNPD, 2007).
Statistics,statistics.

If it was done on a per country basis rather than a per capita basis I expect the picture would be completely different.

For instance Australia is shown in the highest red group and China in the pink.
Those colours would be immediately reversed considering the massive Chinese population in comparison to Australias.

I think a per country version would show a much truer picture regarding the amount of damage being caused.

At the time of the Beijing Olympics I recall that the Chinese were bringing 7 new coal burning power stations on line every single week and had to virtually close down all the factories in the Beijing area so the athletes and visitors had some half decent air to breath.
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Originally Posted by cricketman
Once the US can see $$$ in recognising climate change then perhaps they will accept it
Welcome back, CMan. It's been boring around here since you've been away.

Well, since the US was the world's largest investor in Green Energy in 2011, it seems you might be a bit out of date with your "facts" (as usual).

Also considering the US's greenhouse gas emissions are at a 20-year low, it seems you may again be speaking out your arse.

Got any more juicy non-facts for us?
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Originally Posted by amideislas
Welcome back, CMan. It's been boring around here since you've been away.

Well, since the US was the world's largest investor in Green Energy in 2011, it seems you might be a bit out of date with your "facts" (as usual).

Also considering the US's greenhouse gas emissions are at a 20-year low, it seems you may again be speaking out your arse.

Got any more juicy non-facts for us?
Why were they the only country in the world not to sign Kyoto then?

I agree, things are improving now - because they want to be more energy self-dependent, as it saves in the money spent creating wars
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Originally Posted by cricketman
Why were they the only country in the world not to sign Kyoto then?

I agree, things are improving now - because they want to be more energy self-dependent, as it saves in the money spent creating wars
And yet the US has managed to invest more, and cut emissions more than many of those who signed.

I can only surmise that the economics of green energy are finally making sense, and that's what's driving both the US and China to invest so much in it, precisely what your original statement seems to suggest isn't happening.

And just for the record: the fashionable view that the US is the world's sole source of evil became blasé a number of years ago.

Like you, I'm also not up to date with the latest "who to blame" for all our woes these days, but the US isn't it anymore. Maybe looking in the mirror might help sort it out?

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Old Nov 22nd 2012, 12:52 pm
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Originally Posted by amideislas
Welcome back, CMan. It's been boring around here since you've been away.

Well, since the US was the world's largest investor in Green Energy in 2011, it seems you might be a bit out of date with your "facts" (as usual).

Also considering the US's greenhouse gas emissions are at a 20-year low, it seems you may again be speaking out your arse.

Got any more juicy non-facts for us?
Oh come on - the US might be cleaning up its act a bit but it is still far and away the world's biggest polluter. This is the latest position:

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Originally Posted by Pocaloca
Oh come on - the US might be cleaning up its act a bit but it is still far and away the world's biggest polluter. This is the latest position:

http://www.pbl.nl/sites/default/file...-1990-2011.jpg
The key stat there is that an American generates over twice as much CO2 as a European
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Originally Posted by rugbymatt
I hear the same thing, time and time again from people in their advanced years, I'm bloody glad your pensions are gonna be worth shit to be honest, its your generation that has consumed like greedy fat pigs.
Just noted your 'location' which reads:- "People with narrow minds usually have broad tongues." How apt.
Perhaps, based upon the above you should also add "...and a restricted vocabulary"!
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Originally Posted by Pocaloca
Oh come on - the US might be cleaning up its act a bit but it is still far and away the world's biggest polluter. This is the latest position:

http://www.pbl.nl/sites/default/file...-1990-2011.jpg
Wasn't the point.
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Old Nov 22nd 2012, 3:28 pm
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Just noted your 'location' which reads:- "People with narrow minds usually have broad tongues." How apt.
Perhaps, based upon the above you should also add "...and a restricted vocabulary"!
How am I wrong?
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Old Nov 22nd 2012, 5:29 pm
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You may find this lecture of interest & although long you can skip along a little while keeping track.

http://media.hhmi.org/2012unedited/1..._unedited.html
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