Garbatellamike

you turn potential energy into heat energy........................................

oh sugar, you are right that'll warm everything.....ok everyone stop burning things NOW

rugbymatt

... And what is released when you burn carbon based things?

Garbatellamike

no idea but just stop burning things it'll make things hotter

rugbymatt

OK, I'll go back to discussing this with the women, at least they can manage a sensible discussion.... Thanks.

Garbatellamike

have you stopped burning things?

jojojojojo

There are no conclusions!! Its in the future and you can only have a conclusion when... well something concludes (conclude means finishes, ends)

We all know what happens Fuel + Oxidizer Products of combustion + Energy. So there we have it. The globe is warming because we produce too much heat! We'll take no notice of the things that have gone on in the past, meteor strikes, tectonic plates moving, volcanoes, ice ages, air flow, sun spots. We'll just accept that us burning coal is making the planet too hot and its going to be destroyed in a few years - thats what you believe right??? Just like Al Gore and his infamous speech on how the ice would melt in the arctic by 2015 (he was told that by proper scientists and everything) - so what do you suggest we do?? Stop burning coal???? ok, that immediately stops all electricity. Stop using cars? ok, so no one can get to work or to the shops - oh, no electricity or transport means the shops wont open, neither will factories, or hospitals..... its starting to sound a bit grim isnt it - all because our scientists have said that the arctic snow is going to be gone by 2015. Its actually showing signs of increasing by the way, but lets not let that put us off - nor lets be put off by the many other predictions that havent happened - its definitely going to cos the scientists say so. Those who say it isnt happening dont really understand.



Jo xxx

jimenato

Aww, come on! At least he admitted he had no idea. I don't expect the women to. I don't expect they'll answer at all either because they don't know the answer or they don't think it's relevant.

jojojojojo

You're winding us all up arent you - no one can possibly be that simplistic We're not talking about the fire in your grate at home lol

Jo xxx

jimenato

The globe is warming because we produce too much heat?

You really have no clue at all do you?

jimenato

See - told you they wouldn't answer.

jackytoo

I think why Jo hasn't bothered with the links is because it just turns into a virtual tennis match. There are plenty on Google to support both sides.

jojojojojo

Thats the point, none of us know, we're simply listening to a bunch of scientists, some say one thing, some say another - but since its inconclusive, its too complex for anyone to answer. I think Garbatellamike hit the nail on the head in his earlier post - thats exactly how it is - go back and read it!

Jo xxx

rugbymatt

A few posts ago you waxed lyrical about a rambling post that Garbagemike posted, in which he quite clearly states that the physics of climate change are undisputed. It's that undisputed link that I am talking about and have been quite clear about. It's not just energy you release, ask you Vulcan hubby what else is released into the atmosphere. It's that which is linked to climate change.....

jojojojojo

Thats exactly right Jacky and I cant be bothered to search them out and then have someone find more links to discredit them - it goes on forever. As you say, there are plenty of links for both sides, and plenty of links discrediting other links and on it goes lol!!!!

Jo xxx

rugbymatt

No there aren't. The physics of it are undisputed. We know what happens when carbon dioxide is released into the environment.... It's very clear what happens, it's proven, undisputed science... It's GOLBAL ****ing warming that's disputed!