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Fredbargate Aug 18th 2009 8:29 pm

Gibraltar frontier queue
 
The Mayor of La Linea has come up with a plan to solve the long traffic queues into Gibraltar.:ohmy::ohmy::ohmy:

http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=17013

jackytoo Aug 18th 2009 8:52 pm

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Had to smile at that:rofl: Does he not realise that all the local roads will then be congested with drivers cruising around until the queue goes down!

painterhombre Aug 19th 2009 3:02 am

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thats awful. The queues are a direct result of the hitlers at the frontier.

Lets face it, la linea is a "hole" and if it wasnt for GIB, no one would ever go there.

Rosebush Aug 19th 2009 3:11 am

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Visitors to Gib will decrease due to this i am sure, on our last visit, we had to leave our coach after being in a queue for about 45mins...and cross the border on foot, not sure how long it took the driver to get into Gib car park..less trips mean less money for Sp coach drivers & their companies..i agree the hold ups are caused by the little hitlers in their little huts... coming back was a nightmare everyone getting frisked..thats why we have never gone back for a 2nd visit..!!:thumbdown:

painterhombre Aug 19th 2009 4:15 am

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A few years ago now, but I moved from Gib to Spain.

I loved it there but its a very small place and almost claustrophic sometimes when you cant get out because of border queues etc.

Anyway, when it came to packing our things all I could find was the large Winston ciggie boxes.

I thought it may be a problem but had no option.

At the border those swines made us tip everything out of the boxes, even the small toys.

They were laughing at us and we had to drive off with the car laden with loose stuff.

:frown::frown::frown::frown:

*****THIS IS AMANDAS POST, NOT MINE, SHE WAS ON MY PC, THE CHEEKY LITTLE MINX!!!!!!******

Fredbargate Aug 19th 2009 4:29 am

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Originally Posted by painterhombre (Post 7857338)

I loved it there but its a very small place and almost claustrophic sometimes when you cant get out because of border queues etc.

WHIMP :o:o:o

I served seven years with the frontier closed

paintermujer Aug 19th 2009 4:40 am

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Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 7857389)
WHIMP :o:o:o

I served seven years with the frontier closed

Paintermujer here.

Sorry, was on other computer without thinking.

Yes, Ive often wondered what it must have been like when the border was shut.

But I guess then it was accepted as the norm and there was little anyone could do about it.

I bet house prices were cheaper.:lol:

painterhombre Aug 19th 2009 4:42 am

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Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 7857389)
WHIMP :o:o:o

I served seven years with the frontier closed

if i could (very seriously) give you a medal for that , I would! I love gibraltar, still havent worked out why, (there some psychic stuff going on, long story), anyway, and you know, after 300 years, you would think they would have worked their issues out by now eh?

paintermujer Aug 19th 2009 4:46 am

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*****THIS IS AMANDAS POST, NOT MINE, SHE WAS ON MY PC, THE CHEEKY LITTLE MINX!!!!!!******[/QUOTE]

:eek::eek::eek::eek:

painterhombre Aug 19th 2009 4:53 am

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:wub::wub::wub::wub::rofl:

Fredbargate Aug 19th 2009 4:58 am

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Originally Posted by paintermujer (Post 7857433)
Yes, Ive often wondered what it must have been like when the border was shut.


It was a great place, safe, secure, most people were on first name terms, hundreds of pubs, cheap booze and rotten vegetables.


Originally Posted by paintermujer (Post 7857433)
But I guess then it was accepted as the norm and there was little anyone could do about it.

One could escape by air to UK
By ferry to Tangeirs
Or by private boats to Spain, but not Cadiz province.


Originally Posted by paintermujer (Post 7857433)
I bet house prices were cheaper.:lol:

Houses didn't exist, I would guess less than 5% in the private sector.
Lots of Government ( council ) flats and military accommodation.
Most local families lived in Government flats, two, three or more generations crammed in together.
Expats lived in cardboard boxes if they were lucky.:ohmy:


Originally Posted by painterhombre (Post 7857440)
if i could (very seriously) give you a medal for that , I would!

Straitjacket would be more appropriate.

But hey did we have fun :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

paintermujer Aug 19th 2009 5:06 am

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Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 7857508)
It was a great place, safe, secure, most people were on first name terms, hundreds of pubs, cheap booze and rotten vegetables.



One could escape by air to UK
By ferry to Tangeirs
Or by private boats to Spain, but not Cadiz province.



Houses didn't exist, I would guess less than 5% in the private sector.
Lots of Government ( council ) flats and military accommodation.
Most local families lived in Government flats, two, three or more generations crammed in together.
Expats lived in cardboard boxes if they were lucky.:ohmy:



Straitjacket would be more appropriate.

But hey did we have fun :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

I bet.

Regardless of what anyone says, Gibraltar is a special place-unique.:thumbsup::D

Rosebush Aug 19th 2009 5:18 am

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Long may it remain so..just need to get rid of the hitlers in the huts..:thumbdown:

bil Aug 19th 2009 7:10 am

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Flew into Gib once, never again. The airport was a toilet, and the toilets were non existant or completely disgusting. Cap it off with a god awful queue, and I vowed to only ever go there in dire need, and never to use the airport again unless there was no choice.

You will note that the 'solution' is a typical political non-solution. Are the queues a problem? Then don't do anything to prevent them forming, just ban them.

That requires no real action to be taken, just more little hitlers in the area, and politics is overflowing with those types.

paintermujer Aug 19th 2009 7:16 am

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This argument between GibvSpain is so old.

I dont know the answer.

But Gib is not as bad as many suggest.

Some people need to look a little harder.

bil Aug 19th 2009 7:19 am

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Originally Posted by paintermujer (Post 7857986)
This argument between GibvSpain is so old.

I dont know the answer.

But Gib is not as bad as many suggest.

Some people need to look a little harder.

Well, a friend got married there in May in the botanic garden. The garden was interesting, but have to say that the rest of Gib that I saw was less than thrilling. A bit dingy and solid with traffic. Not, IMO worth the long queues to get in or out.

jo-ann Aug 19th 2009 7:24 pm

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We went to Gib on Monday, had no problems getting in, the queue was very short(9:15) and when we left we drove straight out (1:45)- only 2 cars in front of us. If they want to alleviate the problem of queuing why don't they do something with all of that waste ground on the right as you go in and use that as a queuing area? :huh:

Fredbargate Aug 19th 2009 11:58 pm

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It would appear that the Mayor's plan has been implemented today with the Policia Local making cars circulate when the queue has reached the island which is about 100mtrs before the Club Nautico.

painterhombre Aug 20th 2009 12:29 am

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Originally Posted by bil (Post 7857996)
Well, a friend got married there in May in the botanic garden. The garden was interesting, but have to say that the rest of Gib that I saw was less than thrilling. A bit dingy and solid with traffic. Not, IMO worth the long queues to get in or out.

well, yeah, i think it depends on your point of view and your situation. My memories of Gib of late are sitting on a terrace near the top floor of teh rock hotel, sipping complementary scotch (wahey!):beer: in glorious sunshine, looking down to the dockyard and beyond, with alameda gardens under my window (sort of), my view of alegciras and of Africa, and smoking my 1 pound 10 a pack fags!


I guess it just depends on what company you keep while your there. I agree there some bits that, well, to be frank could do with "sprucing up" but i would rather be there than here (uk).

bil Aug 20th 2009 3:28 am

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Originally Posted by painterhombre (Post 7860032)
well, yeah, i think it depends on your point of view and your situation. My memories of Gib of late are sitting on a terrace near the top floor of teh rock hotel, sipping complementary scotch (wahey!):beer: in glorious sunshine, looking down to the dockyard and beyond, with alameda gardens under my window (sort of), my view of alegciras and of Africa, and smoking my 1 pound 10 a pack fags!


I guess it just depends on what company you keep while your there. I agree there some bits that, well, to be frank could do with "sprucing up" but i would rather be there than here (uk).

To say it's better than the UK, while possibly true is rather damning with faint praise.

The friend who got married was a Brit getting hitched to a Spanish girl, and in a photographer's shop in Gib was told he should p*ss off back to the UK.

Most endearing.

painterhombre Aug 20th 2009 3:30 am

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no, no didnt say that uk was better, i said MYSELF I would rather be there than uk, thats what i meant

bil Aug 20th 2009 3:48 am

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Originally Posted by painterhombre (Post 7860689)
no, no didnt say that uk was better, i said MYSELF I would rather be there than uk, thats what i meant

Same difference, - I know what you mean.

painterhombre Aug 20th 2009 4:14 am

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Originally Posted by bil (Post 7860739)
Same difference, - I know what you mean.

.....it may sound funny, but no, being honest, i cant quite put my finger on why i like the place but i do!!

paintermujer Aug 20th 2009 4:50 am

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Originally Posted by painterhombre (Post 7860689)
no, no didnt say that uk was better, i said MYSELF I would rather be there than uk, thats what i meant

Yo tambien mi marido:wub::wub::wub::wub::wub:

bil Aug 20th 2009 5:35 am

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Originally Posted by painterhombre (Post 7860826)
.....it may sound funny, but no, being honest, i cant quite put my finger on why i like the place but i do!!

Well, I can't see it as you do. It is a world apart from the Spain that I like.

painterhombre Aug 20th 2009 8:47 am

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Originally Posted by bil (Post 7861132)
Well, I can't see it as you do. It is a world apart from the Spain that I like.

oh jolly good then, whatever, its cool, its a free world. Personally i like both places, but thats just me, no problem. :cool:

bil Aug 20th 2009 9:19 am

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Originally Posted by painterhombre (Post 7861627)
oh jolly good then, whatever, its cool, its a free world. Personally i like both places, but thats just me, no problem. :cool:

I think that a big part of it is that Gib seemed so crowded and hurried. I just prefer the more laid back lifestyle of rural Spain.

jdr Aug 20th 2009 6:19 pm

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Originally Posted by bil (Post 7861697)
I think that a big part of it is that Gib seemed so crowded and hurried. I just prefer the more laid back lifestyle of rural Spain.

It`s only crowded cos they dump all the cruise ship passengers off, so they can have a hoover up on the ship while they are gone.

Fredbargate Aug 20th 2009 6:26 pm

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Originally Posted by jdr (Post 7863019)
It`s only crowded cos they dump all the cruise ship passengers off, so they can have a hoover up on the ship while they are gone.

Same applies on the Costa, bus the holidaymakers to Gib for the day so you can tidy up.

Avoid the daytime tourist influx and Gib is as peaceful as most places :confused:

Fredbargate Aug 21st 2009 12:57 am

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http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=17028

painterhombre Aug 22nd 2009 3:34 am

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Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 7863965)

Ref: Gibraltar vs Spain 300 year old argument, i can only say...........:banghead::banghead::banghead:

i wish they would both sort it out, i really do, there HAS to be a way to appease both of them. Its really daft in this day and age

jdr Aug 22nd 2009 3:51 am

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Originally Posted by painterhombre (Post 7866964)
Ref: Gibraltar vs Spain 300 year old argument, i can only say...........:banghead::banghead::banghead:

i wish they would both sort it out, i really do, there HAS to be a way to appease both of them. Its really daft in this day and age

I was near HERE once when the Yanks had to bring in water by ship when the Canadians cut off the water supply to them.
So it is world wide thing. lol

Fredbargate Aug 22nd 2009 4:31 am

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Originally Posted by jdr (Post 7866990)
I was near HERE once when the Yanks had to bring in water by ship when the Canadians cut off the water supply to them.
So it is world wide thing. lol

In the GOOD OLD DAYS when Britain used to build ships, then new tankers outbound to the Gulf would deliver water to Gibraltar.

ballin Aug 24th 2009 3:26 am

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ha! I did wonder what the hell was going on, this explains it, thanks for the post!

Surely there can't be many tourists left wanting to visit this horrible, grubby little rock:D

painterhombre Aug 24th 2009 3:31 am

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Originally Posted by ballin (Post 7871311)
ha! I did wonder what the hell was going on, this explains it, thanks for the post!

Surely there can't be many tourists left wanting to visit this horrible, grubby little rock:D

based on your posting signature, i do so hope none of your customers (or potential customers) in Gib read that last comment. :frown:

paintermujer Aug 24th 2009 3:32 am

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Originally Posted by ballin (Post 7871311)
ha! I did wonder what the hell was going on, this explains it, thanks for the post!

Surely there can't be many tourists left wanting to visit this horrible, grubby little rock:D

I disagree with you so much.

I love Gibraltar and lots of others too.:frown:

missbad Aug 24th 2009 3:33 am

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I like it even though it does smell bad and a bit dirty. I would like to go back in March and go and see the monkeys. xx:)

painterhombre Aug 24th 2009 3:37 am

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Originally Posted by missbad (Post 7871324)
I like it even though it does smell bad and a bit dirty. I would like to go back in March and go and see the monkeys. xx:)


:thumbsup:

thats the spirit! Yep the rocks not perfect by any means, but its INTERESTING and has history. I dont know maybe as gib remind me a bit of Plymouth, i dont know, but as i have said previously, its not perfect, depends on what you make of it and your own circumstances

ballin Aug 24th 2009 10:37 pm

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Originally Posted by painterhombre (Post 7871319)
based on your posting signature, i do so hope none of your customers (or potential customers) in Gib read that last comment. :frown:

Only the Gibraltarians like this hole, everyone else who works here that I know tolerate the place, but would never claim it is nice, or anything like that in all honesty!
I'm not sure what you like about Gibraltar, but whatever it is, good for you. Personally, and everyone I know who spends a fair amount of time here, will tell you it is a horrible, grubby little place run by little hitlers and wannabee playboys!!

Fredbargate Aug 25th 2009 12:00 am

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Originally Posted by ballin (Post 7873319)
Only the Gibraltarians like this hole, everyone else who works here that I know tolerate the place, but would never claim it is nice, or anything like that in all honesty!
I'm not sure what you like about Gibraltar, but whatever it is, good for you. Personally, and everyone I know who spends a fair amount of time here, will tell you it is a horrible, grubby little place run by little hitlers and wannabee playboys!!

Glad you don't know me because I like it :thumbsup:


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