Are you sure you mean an NIE?

An NIE is just a piece of paper with no photo or even a valid address.

It is just a piece of paper giving you a number which is only used for fiscal purposes - it has nothing whatsoever to do with proving your identity.

My NIE is as you describe, but there is a plastic version now, maybe that has a pic on it??

How come you are the only person to know about it ? ;-))

Until recently all 'residencias'( not NIE )were credit card size with photo. Now they are a certificate with no photo so no use as ID. The NIE certificate is a seperate thing.

Trouble is, I don´t... just informed guesswork, really. Story of my life

How do the Spaniards excuse the fact that while they demand Gibraltar to be annexed to Spain because it belongs to the same land-mass, they have no problems with having Ceuta and Melilla on the Moroccan coast? After all, the Moroccans have stated their claims on those territories just as vehemently as the Spaniards have done with Gibraltar.

No idea. I guess they have their reasons which maybe important to them or not?????? Does it matter??


Jo xxx

Lol. You've suddenly become very political. By your argument Northern Ireland should have been part of Ireland politically years ago. Do you think Northern Ireland should be given to Ireland THR? ( wonder if THR can find equivalent numbers of citizens of Ceuta or Melilla who demand unity with Morocco - of course he can't).

The majority of the people of Gibraltar want to remain a UK overseas territory. Spain wants Gibraltar to be part of Spain.

The majority of people of Ceuta and Melilla want to remain Spanish. Morocco wants Ceuta and Melilla to be parts of Morocco.

My point was that at the same time Spain claims something and sticks to something else.

yes!

Jo xx

I don`t think the Moroccans are very worried, most of them have pitches at Fuengirola carboot sale anyway.

I dont think anyone's very worried are they??

Jo xxx

A small correction to that otherwise true statement.

Most Gibraltarians want independence, unfortunately the Spanish insistence that a three hundred year old treaty is still representative today precludes that possibility.

I've visited Gibraltar a few times when I was living down that way (and since) and I've always wondered why it looked so exciting from a distance, and so dull once actually there. Last September when I visited there was some kind of fiesta for the locals, the Spanish, and a few of them were marching around in a kind half-uniform and a mediocre band was playing.

I was eating fish and chips overlooking the square, along with a few other tourists. The wind was blowing a bit and there was a strange air of disinterest all around. Yet all the hotels were fully booked.

Indeed, Gibraltar was ceded to Great Britain "for ever", but it now seems they want to renege on that deal. We ceded Minorca to the Spanish, should we now ask for it back? But for me the most important fact is that well over 90% of the "llanitos" want nothing whatsoever to do with Spain. It's strange that none of Spain's ex territories around the world have wanted anything to do with them. South America, Cuba, Philippines etc have all been glad to see the back of them. Meanwhile GB still has around 53 members in the Commonwealth, The Falklands, Gib etc still want ties with UK, why is that? I'm sure the Commonwealth will become diluted in years to come, but to date it's lasted far longer than anything the Spanish have had. Personally I have only been to GIB once and will not be rushing back, they could have it for me, but a deal's a deal, isn't it?