Re: Gibraltar
 

Probably not Fred. I used to live there in the early 50s in the blocks overlooking Europa Point two of which have now been replaced. Directly in front of us was a tunnel leading down to the beach, which oddly enough was called Tunnel Beach and at that time was still lined with bunks as it was used as bomb shelter during the war. The blocks used to have round water tanks at each end which caught the rain that ran off from the roof. This was the only fresh water supply we had. Water for bathing, toilets and washing was salt water. Our block's claim to fame was that Gunner Portlock, the guy who looked after the apes at that time, lived in our block.

At that time the area outside the casemates was mainly sports fields so it was far less crowded than it is now and was then a good place to grow up.

Jim

Re: Gibraltar
 

Unfortunately it is now a concrete jungle :frown:

But still a lot better than most of the Spanish coast. :D

Re: Gibraltar
 

If there are strict border controls on land between Spain and Gibraltar, what about if you set sailing on your private boat? Does Gibraltar have very extensive territorial waters or do you get stopped by the Spanish Coast Guard almost as soon as you have departed the quay in Gibraltar?

Re: Gibraltar
 

Once again different interpretations.

Gibraltar / UK claim three mile territorial waters.
Spain claims that under the Treaty of Utrect 1713 Gibraltar has no territorial waters, even to the point where some years ago when Gib built houses / Morrisons on land reclaimed within it's harbour Spain sent protest to some world organization or other that Gib was infringing Spanish territorial waters.

Recently a month or so back Gib sent a Guardia Civil vessel away that was checking paperwork on vessels in Gib waters. I believe the vessel in question was a Spanish one. I was expecting Spain to react in it's usual manner by causing long frontier queues.

http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=17274

However on a normal day to day basis yachts going to and from Gib have no problems.

There are quiet a number of RYA sailing schools operating out of Gib as the waters there are still considered tidal and of course international destinations are close Spain, Portugal and Morroco

Re: Gibraltar
 

Didn't this have something to do with the EC giving away some of Gibraltars environmental waters to Spain?

http://en.mercopress.com/2009/08/18/...enge-before-ec

Jim

Re: Gibraltar
 

On the surface no, but the undercurrents are there

:rofl::rofl::rofl: