Dick Dasterdly

Absolute cobblers.

First the time factor.

Nato could probably have bombed the place to buggery and ended it all pretty damned quick.
Instead they were patient and selective taking out targets when they became available and when it was reasonably safe to do so, with very few mistakes, and so limiting civilian casualties to a minimum.

Limiting innocent victims was the order of the day NOT the time factor.

Secondly Gadaffis support.

Now for a guy you claim had a hell of a lot of support how do you explain the fact that he needed to use so many merceneries from other countries or indeed use any mercenaries at all ?

Mercenaries who were not only used to fight the rebellion, but also to put the fear of death into his own population as well as any members of his own army who had thoughts of defecting.
Little wonder those guys fought to the finish.
They knew they had no other option because they were so despised by the vast majority of Libyans who would obviously have little sympathy for them at the end of the day.

Yes his ppl.really loved him didn't they just as he repeatedly claimed in his repeated broadcasts ?

Loved him so much that he was hard pressed to get more than a hundred of them on show at a time when he called in the Worlds press for his staged events supposedly showing where innocent citizens had been hit by Nato airstrikes.
Despite his repeated efforts, both the press and public came to the conclusion that the claimed damage had obviously been staged and more than likely the small handful of so-called supporters on show were there under duress.

Whatever happened to, or where on earth were the 60,000 troops he said were defending Tripoli alone ?

For me when the dust settled the most surprising thing of all was just how LITTLE SUPPORT he really had, apart from family, paid mercenaries, and members of his tribe.

As I said a totally different situation to that in Iraq or maybe I've been following a different war to you.

bil

Gaddafi dies in the middle of conflict when passions are high, killed by the people he opressed for so long.

Osama is executed by the US, in a sovereign state, without their permission, in a clear act of revenge.

So, how's the UN investigation into the OBL murder going on?

Or isn't it murder if the Yanks do it?

Rosemary

Possibly the biggest problem they face is if, as some pundits state, sharia law is used instead of some form of our type of law. It could then sweep across Northern Africa.

Graham

bil

Only if the religious nutters get into control. People who favour democracy don't usually go a bundle on Sharia.

Would you vote to put the UK under religious law, and hand all our rights over to the church?

jackytoo

The islamist party is the favourite for the elections in Tunisia. Been a lot of burning and looting shops selling Western music and DVD's and various other incidents. Egypt is turning backwards, wanting women back in headgear and burning Christian churches, usually with Christians inside. The Muslim brotherhood is strengthening.

Initially in Libya will be NTC have a big fall out, they have already bumped off one of their members.

jackytoo

The new Transitionary president has announced they will be adopting sharia law and any laws that conflict with this wil be null and void. The law that ruled only one wife is now abolished and they can take more wives....great stuff

licinius

Dick please tell me you don't honestly believe all that crap? Mercenaries are a factor of war. You can give an arab an AK47, or you can give it to an ex RM Commando, which would you rather have fighting beside you?

60,000 troops........ I don't suppose you've seen how much damage a 2,000lb cluster bomb can do have you? Google to see how many the yanks dropped, they alone dropped 1,000,000 pounds of ordnance before the end of March but you reckon they took their time & only picked out precise targets do you???

It took 8 months of Nato airstrikes to destroy his forces. Airstrikes had to be stepped up at one point because government troops were pushing the terrorists back. No it's not a totally different situation to Iraq, it's exactly the same. We have deposed of a foreign leader purely in the name of oil.

For eight months people have been fighting against the terrorist uprising, at any time (as some did) they could've swapped sides & deserted the army. The fact that they didn't should tell you that these people will not accept the new government & we have created ANOTHER civil war.

We have people at home living in poverty, freezing to death, the health service is crippled & there is no end in sight to the decline but you would rather tax payers money was spent on global terrorism in a country you really don't give two hoots about

EllisG

impossible to argue it from an economic point of view as the as making money out of the place is the one reason the British and the others are dropping their bombs there in the first place...would the French have been the first to reverse the poles of their forces from it's natural retreating state for any other reason

Dick Dasterdly

Extreme Drama Queen methinks.
I spend enough time in the UK to know that the situation is nothing like as bad as you infer. I was quite impressed with the health service in my own area and as for poverty there's very few that even know the true meaning of the word.
Up to now I don't see any signs of another war, only attempts to create a democratic process and as far as the remnants of Gadaffis rag tag bunch are concerned their chances of a comeback are virtually zilch
Sorry to hear of your concern about Gadaffis passing, but obviously having swallowed most of his and his families pathetic mindless propoganda and ramblings, maybe it's understandable.

Rosemary

Blair seemed to

Graham

Rosemary

Out of interest how come we never take out the leaders, Gadaffi could have been shot anytime as could any of the leaders in the world including Hitler but no, kill off as many troops as you like they don´t count but no don´t touch the leaders. Makes me angry, yes it bloody does.

Graham

bil

Worst thing in the world to take out Hitler.

Had he been replaced by someone sensible, we might well have been screwed.

EllisG

imagine a leader of the 3rd Reich who had learnt from the Roman's knowledge and Napoleon's great mistake and knew to keep the f#$% out of Russia (as well as Scotland had they got that far)

licinius

Rest assured I stay well clear of the UK media so there's no danger of me soaking up biased propoganda & ramblings. You only have to look at the press this week, saying now he's dead we'll never find out why he did Lockerbie????????? Erm no secret there.

The Pan Am was targetted in revenge for the Iranian civil airliner which was shot down by the USS Vincennes just six months earlier with the loss of 290 civilians including 66 children. Nobody was held accountable for this mass murder even though the ships captain had entered Iranian territorial waters 'looking for trouble'!

Every action has an equal & opposite reaction

bil

That wasn't Libya. The iranians transferred a shedload of dosh to a terrorist group after Lockerbie.

Read Private eye's dossier on Lockerbie. Megrahi was innocent.