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-   -   First steps after lockdown (https://britishexpats.com/forum/spain-75/first-steps-after-lockdown-932076/)

SimonJ22 Apr 23rd 2020 5:43 pm
Re: First steps after lockdown
 
Originally Posted by olivefarmer (Post 12843213)
Next steps? How about testing and vaccination for key workers , important people and the politicians of course. Ordinary people kept at home with old and vulnerable people at the back of the queue. They can or are after all staying in. I base that on something our illustrious EU leader said “ she expects the older to be locked down until the end of the year”.

meanwhile Greece thinks it will restart limited tourism in July. Laudable and maybe achievable through a sort of first class society i.e. those with a clean , vaccinated health passport and of course frequent testing e.g. arrive at airport, temp test on embarking and arrival. And vice versa on return.
Given we are a long way from a vaccine I sincerely hope that is not the next step lol

Fredbargate Apr 23rd 2020 5:53 pm
Re: First steps after lockdown
 
Originally Posted by olivefarmer (Post 12843213)
old and vulnerable people at the back of the queue. They can or are after all staying in.
I am over 70 my wife is in the vulnerable group.
We cross the frontier into Spain 5 days a week and travel about 30 km
I exercise in Spain because I am not allowed to in Gibraltar ( hopefully that will change in the next week )
Also I shop in Mercadona.

bobd22 Apr 23rd 2020 9:12 pm
Re: First steps after lockdown
 
Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 12843382)
I exercise in Spain because I am not allowed to in Gibraltar ( hopefully that will change in the next week )
Also I shop in Mercadona.
You shouldn't be "excercising" in Spain either shopping doctors Farmicia yes excercis isn't a criteria allowed unless one person excersising a dog. I wish it were if we were allowed solo isolated walk daily I would find this situation much less tedious. The police and Guardia Civi check our village and area and some I know have been told to go home.

spainrico Apr 23rd 2020 9:19 pm
Re: First steps after lockdown
 
Yes, same here, small village in the hills would be easy to stay isolated and walk but.....rules are rules. And the GC are patrolling...

Thank God for the garden and terrace.

Fredbargate Apr 23rd 2020 10:12 pm
Re: First steps after lockdown
 
Originally Posted by bobd22 (Post 12843442)
You shouldn't be "excercising" in Spain either shopping doctors Farmicia yes excercis isn't a criteria allowed unless one person excersising a dog. I wish it were if we were allowed solo isolated walk daily I would find this situation much less tedious. The police and Guardia Civi check our village and area and some I know have been told to go home.
The Guardia Civil checked me this morning and apologised for their action.
I am also checked daily by immigration and customs
Plus I have to pass through the road blocks.
I have more hassle leaving Spain than I do entering.
On re-entering Gib I am usually greeted by Hello Fred

Retired in Euskadi Apr 23rd 2020 10:49 pm
Re: First steps after lockdown
 
Originally Posted by spainrico (Post 12842695)
I agree totally things will just not revert to exactly as they were before all this started. The world has changed and the knock-on effects will be felt for a very long time by us all.

The lockdown ending is just the first step of a very long and probably frustrating road.
I sincerely hope that this crisis will make both people and society in general (governments, businesses, organisations) change for the better. That governments work in harmony with their oppositions and other countries, that businesses take on board a more 'moral' attitude (eg value their workforce, don't go for cheap/slave labour fixes in the Far East), that we don't immediately rush to jet off to somewhere because it's cheap to do so) and that we all value our environment more.
But having been around for 73 years, I unfortunately retain a measure of cynicism that won't go away. I'd be more than happy to be proved wrong.
A website (in Spanish) from today's newspaper.
https://www.elcomercio.es/sociedad/i....google.com%2F

bobd22 Apr 23rd 2020 11:35 pm
Re: First steps after lockdown
 
Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 12843465)
The Guardia Civil checked me this morning and apologised for their action.
I am also checked daily by immigration and customs
Hi Fred but did they check you as exercising or to see if you are shopping etc? As far as I understand rules in Spain currently we are not allowed out simply for excercise? Borders etc I know nothing off.

Fredbargate Apr 23rd 2020 11:45 pm
Re: First steps after lockdown
 
Originally Posted by bobd22 (Post 12843487)
Hi Fred but did they check you as exercising or to see if you are shopping etc? As far as I understand rules in Spain currently we are not allowed out simply for excercise? Borders etc I know nothing off.
One of the people I exercise with is a Guardia officer

But carry on worrying, I'm not

bobd22 Apr 23rd 2020 11:50 pm
Re: First steps after lockdown
 
Not that I am worrying? Just saying how I understand the rules.

el collado kid Apr 24th 2020 12:51 am
Re: First steps after lockdown
 
Originally Posted by spainrico (Post 12843444)
Yes, same here, small village in the hills would be easy to stay isolated and walk but.....rules are rules. And the GC are patrolling...

Thank God for the garden and terrace.
Its the same here to police checks and road blocks everywhere.my wife was shopping in lidl and the police were there telling the manager to wipe down trolleys and to keep people apart and told an old couple they were not allowed to be together.

bobd22 Apr 25th 2020 8:40 pm
Re: First steps after lockdown
 
There could be light glimmering at the end of the tunnel.
https://english.elpais.com/spanish_n...2-says-pm.html

spainrico Apr 25th 2020 8:48 pm
Re: First steps after lockdown
 
You have spent lockdown in a tunnel!! (hahaha sorry)

OK yes, this is great news - fingers crossed - feeling victimised with no dog or kid!

bobd22 Apr 25th 2020 9:06 pm
Re: First steps after lockdown
 
Originally Posted by spainrico (Post 12844355)
You have spent lockdown in a tunnel!! (hahaha sorry)
Feels like it sometimes 😔 fingers crossed re update.

breakfasttea Apr 26th 2020 7:12 pm
Re: First steps after lockdown
 
“Children are now allowed to leave their homes with an adult once per day. Spaniards will be allowed to leave their homes for short walks and exercise starting on 2 May, having previously only been permitted to go out for essential shopping or to go to work that cannot be done from home.”

Coronavirus lockdowns unlocked: Which countries are easing restrictions
http://news.sky.com/story/coronaviru...tions-11974027

Fredbargate Apr 26th 2020 9:08 pm
Re: First steps after lockdown
 
Originally Posted by breakfasttea (Post 12844751)
“Children are now allowed to leave their homes with an adult once per day. Spaniards will be allowed to leave their homes for short walks and exercise starting on 2 May, having previously only been permitted to go out for essential shopping or to go to work that cannot be done from home.”
Today between 8:45 and 11:00 am in a journey of 60 km I have seen one child


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