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It is good to see this being thought about and discussed....your thoughts?

https://english.elpais.com/society/2...rmal-life.html

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Just getting out for a solo walk would be a godsend in my view.

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Yes, I agree - I live in a small village with easy access to the mountains (I don't have a dog) and it is frustrating not to be able to get some exercise.

But I suppose there has to be one rule for all.

Maybe soon with a phased end to the lockdown.

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I am in exactly the same position. Couldn't agree more we must follow the guidance we are given.

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My first steps after lockdown will be bloody big ones away from the house.

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April 26th looks to be a big day

https://english.elpais.com/society/2...overnment.html

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Yesterday they said it is likely to be extended until May 10th now.

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Yes I heard something similar. I think they've got a problem with the May 1 bank holiday falling on a Friday. If they start relaxing restrictions too much the week before, well you know what's going to happen...

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I'm sure some restrictions will continue for some time dependant on various factors. However I would think by the end of current period 26 April they will at least start lessening things to some extent if the peak is passed and cases decline. It's not just boredom but people's lively hoods. It has to be controlled of course but as much as there are dangers re virus the government and advisors will be looking at every factor , financial mental health everything. If they get it wrong then people will disobey and then chaos along probably with second wave of infections. We have to follow the guidance which must be sensible for the sake of everyone.

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It's more obvious where I am as there seems to be a long-term project of resurfacing every road going on. When the lockdown started the bars, non-food shops etc closed but these works continued and only stopped when the state of alarm was announced. Presumably 26th April, the end of the state of alarm, is when these people can go back to work, but the bars etc will remain close while the general lockdown continues.

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Hopefully we can go out the 26th April :lol:

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My thoughts are for a may release from total lockdown.I will then be going into my own lockdown for a period for my own safety

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Lots of post lockdown planning going on

https://english.elpais.com/politics/...-measures.html

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Likewise, it makes good sense.

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Just quick question re lockdown. What's the situation with dentists? I could do to see one as have badly cracked a tooth which I think will need to come out ASAP.

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Most dentists offer an emergency service. Ours has a 2 hour daily slot, but obviously you need an appointment. Ask them to email you the appointment details so if you are stopped by the police you can prove where you are going.

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Thanks Fred good point.

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Just my thoughts, but I feel May 10th will be the date for a partial lifting of restrictions. What would be lovely in the meantime, if people were allowed out for exercise. My wife and I are lucky, as we live right next door to olive fields and can walk our dog. I have been told, whether true or false, that those of us over 70 may have to be in lockdown longer.

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Managed to contact a local dentist they are only dealing with emergency appointments as you mentioned Fred. I have got one for Monday morning so hopefully all will be resolved then. Thanks for your help Fred.

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Start of the end of the lockdown
https://english.elpais.com/society/2...-april-27.html

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On the other hand, apparently they are considering keeping bars, restaurants and hotels closed until the end of the year.

https://www.elmundo.es/economia/2020...1be8c07e2.html

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My dogs are not even allowed in the street even on a lead. I live only about 100 metres from the campo but can't get there without breaking the local rules. Poor things have not been out for 6 weeks.

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It looks like Andalucia may lead the way with the lifting of restrictions as the death figures continue to fall...
https://english.elpais.com/society/2...n-a-month.html

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Excuse me for commenting, not being an ex pat now but recognising so many old names here. I only "dropped in" to deliver some news to Fred James

The general sensible view in the UK is that things just aren't going to be normal again in the same sense that they were. The virus doesn't seem to be fully understood, and there is talk of the vaccine taking years to produce. We dont know if the virus will just simply disappear or even if there will be a second wave. So its going to be a long period of uncertainty and certainly from a personal point of view I will continue social distancing, avoiding large gatherings such as concerts and football matches and sadly travel plans could well be affected for some time to come. I was due to fly to Canada in September, but thats looking less and less likely even if lock down is over by then.

So that's just a UK perspective and view, that the new normal is not something that we will recognise from life before COVID-19

Keep safe - keep well ;)

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I agree totally things will just not revert to exactly as they were before all this started. The world has changed and the knock-on effects will be felt for a very long time by us all.

The lockdown ending is just the first step of a very long and probably frustrating road.

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First steps after lockdown will be for all those people who have put off seeking medical help for other non Covid health problems to get down to GP/hospital. The unnecessary deaths which will result from people understandably staying aware will dwarf those caused by Covid. Maybe by a factor of five or even ten depending on how long people continue to shun going to the health service.

my elderly dads teeth are shocking. He needed work in Dec but his appointment was only a ten minute check up so the dentist said cannot do anything today except take money off you. I rang today to see if his June one is for treatment as another filling has dropped out of his five remaining teeth and no it was a ten minute check up. So that is now a half hour job to remove one loose tooth from December and fill two . They did offer to supply me with a free DIY filling repair kit........ I am not Bob Mortimer!

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I heard on the radio this morning that a guy whose job included picking up cervical cancer swabs from surgeries, that he normally collects 200 a week. Last week he collected only 5.

I am as concerned as anyone else about the risks of going into the health centre or hospital. This week I had a call from our hospital asking me to come in the next day for an appointment which they had cancelled a week ago. I declined it. I have spent 7 weeks in total isolation and I am not about to visit a hospital which has over 100 infected patients.

In my case it was a routine checkup but many people with new, serious symptoms are just avoiding a visit to the doctor. That can only have serious long term consequences.

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Next steps? How about testing and vaccination for key workers , important people and the politicians of course. Ordinary people kept at home with old and vulnerable people at the back of the queue. They can or are after all staying in. I base that on something our illustrious EU leader said “ she expects the older to be locked down until the end of the year”.

meanwhile Greece thinks it will restart limited tourism in July. Laudable and maybe achievable through a sort of first class society i.e. those with a clean , vaccinated health passport and of course frequent testing e.g. arrive at airport, temp test on embarking and arrival. And vice versa on return.

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Old and vulnerable people will be first in the queue after essential workers. They are the only ones who get free Flu jabs so it will be the same with CV. they don’t really care if the virus kills you but it costs too much in the process so it’s cheaper to keep you alive rather than taking up ITU beds in the process of dying.

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Given we are a long way from a vaccine I sincerely hope that is not the next step lol

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I am over 70 my wife is in the vulnerable group.
We cross the frontier into Spain 5 days a week and travel about 30 km
I exercise in Spain because I am not allowed to in Gibraltar ( hopefully that will change in the next week )
Also I shop in Mercadona.

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You shouldn't be "excercising" in Spain either shopping doctors Farmicia yes excercis isn't a criteria allowed unless one person excersising a dog. I wish it were if we were allowed solo isolated walk daily I would find this situation much less tedious. The police and Guardia Civi check our village and area and some I know have been told to go home.

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Yes, same here, small village in the hills would be easy to stay isolated and walk but.....rules are rules. And the GC are patrolling...

Thank God for the garden and terrace.

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The Guardia Civil checked me this morning and apologised for their action.
I am also checked daily by immigration and customs
Plus I have to pass through the road blocks.
I have more hassle leaving Spain than I do entering.
On re-entering Gib I am usually greeted by Hello Fred

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I sincerely hope that this crisis will make both people and society in general (governments, businesses, organisations) change for the better. That governments work in harmony with their oppositions and other countries, that businesses take on board a more 'moral' attitude (eg value their workforce, don't go for cheap/slave labour fixes in the Far East), that we don't immediately rush to jet off to somewhere because it's cheap to do so) and that we all value our environment more.
But having been around for 73 years, I unfortunately retain a measure of cynicism that won't go away. I'd be more than happy to be proved wrong.
A website (in Spanish) from today's newspaper.
https://www.elcomercio.es/sociedad/i....google.com%2F

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Hi Fred but did they check you as exercising or to see if you are shopping etc? As far as I understand rules in Spain currently we are not allowed out simply for excercise? Borders etc I know nothing off.

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One of the people I exercise with is a Guardia officer

But carry on worrying, I'm not

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Not that I am worrying? Just saying how I understand the rules.

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Its the same here to police checks and road blocks everywhere.my wife was shopping in lidl and the police were there telling the manager to wipe down trolleys and to keep people apart and told an old couple they were not allowed to be together.