family movein to alicante in sep 09
#31
Re: family movein to alicante in sep 09
but unemployment here is the worst in europe
hang on - haven't I already said that
without an income from outside spain we wouldn't be able to stay here
& I speak & teach Spanish!!!
#32
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Re: family movein to alicante in sep 09
I am not sure its red tape, its simply language and the people you know.
Ask yourself this Q, do you think you could get a driving job in the UK if you didnt speak English and you didnt know anyone in the business? Most (if not all) bus companies are Spanish here and the same for lorries and freight. So just to go to the interview you will need to speak Spanish. I think this is a very fair request and has nothing to do with the EU.
The unemployment rate is 19% in Spain vs. about 9% in the UK, over twice as much! There are 4 million unemployed, many of which were working as drivers, construction workers etc doing the jobs irishdell wants to get into. Not only that, but the cheap immigrant jobs go to Latin Americans and Romanians who speak Spanish.
The only chance you have as an English person who doesnt speak Spanish is to have an English friend or acquantance who wants someone to do work for them in Spain. Or maybe work for the English removal companies who are driving the British people's possessions back to their homes in the UK
#33
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Re: family movein to alicante in sep 09
My wife speaks 5 laguages fluently, well, she'd say 3 and it hasnt really helped her in the job market. You need a really niche job that your languages will make a difference - and then you still need another skill such as engineer etc. And there are so many people who speak lots of languages in Europe that there is a lot of competition.
Language skills simply put you on a level playing field with the people who can already speak that language. I would never move to a country where I didnt speak the language, now I dont like to go on holiday unless I understand
Most importantly, languages give you the freedown to enjoy the world, but they're not a passport to loads of money.
#34
Re: family movein to alicante in sep 09
You have to admire how wonderfully naive so many British people are. They move to France and Spain without any idea of the job situation, the language, the culture or what on earth they will do when they get there - and they often bring children along to boot.
I am amazed at some of the questions that are asked on this site, when a person could spend an hour on google and come up with some great answers.
Are British people blinded by a romatic notion that the grass is always greener? Or is it just that people want to live where they've been on holiday?
My Spanish friends wouldnt dream of moving to another country without knowing about the job market and speaking the language, yet I get calls all the time from British friends wanting to make the move to Spain, the last one was a lawyer and wanted to move to Barcelona - and didnt speak 2 words of Spanish or Catalan, in fact he'd never heard of Catalan!
I am amazed at some of the questions that are asked on this site, when a person could spend an hour on google and come up with some great answers.
Are British people blinded by a romatic notion that the grass is always greener? Or is it just that people want to live where they've been on holiday?
My Spanish friends wouldnt dream of moving to another country without knowing about the job market and speaking the language, yet I get calls all the time from British friends wanting to make the move to Spain, the last one was a lawyer and wanted to move to Barcelona - and didnt speak 2 words of Spanish or Catalan, in fact he'd never heard of Catalan!
You can google as often as you like, but i like to ask questions from people who are in Spain and that can give a good honest answer. google can not do that. I do believe some people are naive me for one, however i would rather try something than regret not trying. x
#36
Re: family movein to alicante in sep 09
I reckon we just waste our time answering some of these threads. Does no-one ever read the posts on here before posting. Ok rant over - heading for the wine and a darkened room
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Re: family movein to alicante in sep 09
I can't resist making a point in favour of living in a 'British' area. When dialling the emergency number (112) you can speak to an English-speaking operator, or a German one. The giant, new and excellent Torrevieja hospital have English speaking staff in the emergency department to cater for the majority of their customers. The reception staff are similarly bilingual, and most consultants can speak some English.
Although reluctant to admit it, the more senior Guardia Civil officers have all attended classes to learn English, especially the detectives who work undercover, or in homicide.
And the bank staff, lawyers, doctors, taxi drivers etc etc all speak enough English to make you feel at home.
Although reluctant to admit it, the more senior Guardia Civil officers have all attended classes to learn English, especially the detectives who work undercover, or in homicide.
And the bank staff, lawyers, doctors, taxi drivers etc etc all speak enough English to make you feel at home.
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Re: family movein to alicante in sep 09
hi all im dell and my family wife 3 kids movein to alicante in sep 09 plz can some1 put me in touch with best site to long term let a property or any body no some1 with 3 bed place to let upto 400 a month plus i am hgv and coach driver is there work there for me . are we better off in alicante town or benidorm to give our selves best chance of work . plus schools for kids when term starts and best schools any tips would be great we have looked all tis up but info very scarce on net tnks everybody any tips at all bout movein wud be great tnks dell ....
Sometimes looking at the bigger picture and taking your time will grosse dividends. fail to prepare is to prepare to fail.
Just a suggestion try contacting removal companies in the UK that do the Spanish runs and test the water as to job potential also google UK bound firms in Spain and do the same, that will give you at least a rough idea of your chances, if Brit firms are not recruiting then you will stand little chance with a Spanish Firm.
As for coach work unless you are ofay with Spanish roads, signs, geography, laws and regulations you may struggle just a tad, sorry not to be able to say it will be OK but maybe just a little common sence. In the UK as a wagon drive you are bound by the laws, time directive, six and 4 hours rule, do you know what the regs are there?, you would be a sitting duck open to all sorts of abuse and ignorance is no excuse.
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Re: family movein to alicante in sep 09
112 is the European emergency number and is not specific to Brit enclaves in Spain.
Valuable time can be lost calling this number as they then have to call the local emergency number so it is best to know the local emergency number and have a basic knowledge of the lingo.
#42
Re: family movein to alicante in sep 09
there's some very wise advice on this thread.
As far as a place for 400 euros a month, well yes, its possible, but south costa blanca only, or costa del sol.
your best bet are on the expat urbanisations, new houses, that no-one can sell. If you look hard enough, reckon you can find a nice one, especially from the research we did a few months back. try torrevieja. Most certainly not where i would want to live, but, well, horses for courses as they say, depends how bad you want to come over here?
...and the job thing, well, its VERY bad over there, highest unemployment in the EU. Depends again on how adaptable and resourceful you are, but i hope you do eventually sort something out, but be warned work is VERY scarce in Spain just now.
good luck anyway
As far as a place for 400 euros a month, well yes, its possible, but south costa blanca only, or costa del sol.
your best bet are on the expat urbanisations, new houses, that no-one can sell. If you look hard enough, reckon you can find a nice one, especially from the research we did a few months back. try torrevieja. Most certainly not where i would want to live, but, well, horses for courses as they say, depends how bad you want to come over here?
...and the job thing, well, its VERY bad over there, highest unemployment in the EU. Depends again on how adaptable and resourceful you are, but i hope you do eventually sort something out, but be warned work is VERY scarce in Spain just now.
good luck anyway
#43
Re: family movein to alicante in sep 09
I am so surprised that so many young families want to come to Spain.
It is not the dream the media portrays.
Unless you know Spanish fluently and have a job secured, I would not recommend moving. It is a high risk to take.
We are lucky - my husband has a job (for now). We have healthcover.
I know a few Spanish people who will help in a crisis and have done so. We have been here 8 months and I have been to the hospital with my 5 year old twice already!! (allegic reaction to mozzie bites/falling off a bouncy castle) and me twice with my eye. Each time I have had to call a friend to translate.
Not easy and very stressful. Times like that you wish you were back home.
So think of the practicalities - and the what ifs.
It is not the dream the media portrays.
Unless you know Spanish fluently and have a job secured, I would not recommend moving. It is a high risk to take.
We are lucky - my husband has a job (for now). We have healthcover.
I know a few Spanish people who will help in a crisis and have done so. We have been here 8 months and I have been to the hospital with my 5 year old twice already!! (allegic reaction to mozzie bites/falling off a bouncy castle) and me twice with my eye. Each time I have had to call a friend to translate.
Not easy and very stressful. Times like that you wish you were back home.
So think of the practicalities - and the what ifs.