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twyntub Jan 5th 2008 11:32 pm

Re: Excited but apprehensive!
 

Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 5746912)
If you are running from something, overcrowding, immigrants, nanny state, etc, etc,etc then you will all be disappointed.

But you missed the poor state of education, roads, healthcare, stealth taxes, fuel prices, cost of beer, cost of fags, political sleeze, data protection, the risk of identity fraud, lack of social cohesion, crime, teenage thugs, drugs, bullying in schools, and, of course, the weather! Did I miss anything? :rofl:

rugbymatt Jan 5th 2008 11:35 pm

Re: Excited but apprehensive!
 

Originally Posted by twyntub (Post 5747031)
But you missed the poor state of education, roads, healthcare, stealth taxes, fuel prices, cost of beer, cost of fags, political sleeze, data protection, the risk of identity fraud, lack of social cohesion, crime, teenage thugs, drugs, bullying in schools, and, of course, the weather! Did I miss anything? :rofl:

That pretty much covers everything.

lee8 Jan 6th 2008 12:50 am

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Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 5746912)
Life in Spain, or any other country to be honest, depends on why you are going.

If you are running from something, overcrowding, immigrants, nanny state, etc, etc,etc then you will all be disappointed.


If you are going to broaden your horizons and experience a new life abroad then the odds are on you doing well.........................


But seriously, why the hell are we still moaning about this, it happens every couple of months!

Well said, I`ve commented on another site which had loads of people believing Spain is the promised Land, that there govt is going to welcome you with no taxes and you`ll earn buckets of money.

I also here lots about its your determination to make it work, which to a small extent is true, the reality is if you need to earn cash to live in Spain, you will suffer if you need to rely on Spanish to proved that income.

I also get the idiots saying your so Anti Spain, that makes me laugh, I keep mentioning my Spanish wife too provide the idiots an obvious slice of proof that you cannot be anti Spanish and live with one:ohmy:

Spain is a lovely country, it was perfect in 1968 when my parents were in Benidorm watching the first hotel being built, it was perfect in the 70`s when I was born, since the 80`s the country turned into a pile of crap.

The one thing I hate in Spain is the fact tourism has turned the country greedy and the beauty of the Costa`s have been turned into a pile of crap.

I much prefer the Spain from Madrid upwards, but even there slowly the scurge of immigration is creeping in.

twyntub Jan 6th 2008 12:58 am

Re: Excited but apprehensive!
 

Originally Posted by lee8 (Post 5747242)
I keep mentioning my Spanish wife too provide the idiots an obvious slice of proof that you cannot be anti Spanish and live with one:ohmy:

I didn't know you had a Spanish wife... :rofl:

lee8 Jan 6th 2008 1:11 am

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Originally Posted by twyntub (Post 5747031)
But you missed the poor state of education,

Really do you no much about Spain`s education system.


roads,
You should drive from Malaga to Bilbao twice a year, you may change that opinion.


healthcare,
No different.


stealth taxes,
Do you read El Pais.


fuel prices,
Same as UK only in Euro`s.


cost of beer, cost of fags,
OK a difference, but you go out more in Spain, or I did anyway, I spent far more goin out in Spain than UK.


political sleeze,
Malaya, Land Grabbing all Political backahanders.The UK is listed as No 12, No 1 being best, 50 being worse countries, Spain was 25 behind Chile for the most corrupt countries in the world.There are 100 Million 500 Euros nots in Spain, thats a third of all the EU countries 500 euro notes, IMT note Spain Black Economy to account for 20% of its Gross Income.


data protection,
There isn`t any, which is why major Mafia groups are running Credit Card counterfeiting in Spain, so far 454 Active groups are identified in the Costa Del Sol alone, the last bust sore nearly 100 million euros being stolen by Credit card fraud in Spain.


the risk of identity fraud,
See above.


lack of social cohesion,
I reguarly here Spaniards refering Blacks as Monkeys, Gran Hermano 2006 had a contestant calling the black house mate racially.


crime,
Really, now you taking the michael or you can`t understand Castellano.


teenage thugs,
There is a huge Gang culture in Spanish society manly due to South Americans, but the Spanish have retaliated.

Last year there was You Tube filming of teachers having fights with thugs in Schools and many happy slapping incidents.

Also three youths were arrested for setting fire to a female homless person who was sleeping in a Bank entrance, they entered poured petrol over her and lit it, they then held the door close why`ll the women flame danced until she died.

In my town a down syndrome teenager was thrown from a cliff and filmed drowning.

In Benalmadena the Policia held a Special meeting with the council in a hope of stopping the high amounts of street violence and stabbings after a Spaniard was murdered and several seriously injured.


drugs,
an EU survey from last year found Spain is the highest user of Cocaine in Europe 1-4 adults use occasionally and a recent survey of drivers stopped in Catalonia found 98 out of 100 drivers were under the influence of illegal drugs.


bullying in schools,
Regular, there was a girl from the UK needed serious medical treatment after some Spanish girls beat her up after reporting months of bullying, from San Pedro in the Costa Del Sol, the parents are still taking it to the top as the police didn`t react and the school claimed because it happened outside of school property they can`t act, they have since left Spain and are still persuing the case in the Euro court.


and, of course, the weather! Did I miss anything? :rofl:
You win hands down.

I`m not anti Spanish, but make ridiculous comments as those just shows you no nada about Espana.

lee8 Jan 6th 2008 1:13 am

Re: Excited but apprehensive!
 

Originally Posted by twyntub (Post 5747253)
I didn't know you had a Spanish wife... :rofl:

neither did I

twyntub Jan 6th 2008 1:17 am

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Originally Posted by lee8 (Post 5747289)
I`m not anti Spanish, but make ridiculous comments as those just shows you no nada about Espana.

It was a j - o - k - e... funny? As in 'Ha ha'? Humour? Hence the emoticon! :)

lee8 Jan 6th 2008 1:20 am

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Some Spaniards speakin nice too some Guiri`s, if you don`t understand castellano read the English reply at the bottom of the Main Spanish You Tube site, under the many guiri films about them bing Mother Flookers.

And that one is quite tame compered to the Spanish sites.

lee8 Jan 6th 2008 1:35 am

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This ones class de Ingles by poxxxo

rugbymatt Jan 6th 2008 1:37 am

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Lee out of decency I will refrain from posting the thousands of happy slapping vids done in the UK.


Come on, are we really going to try and compare a country like Spain to a country like the UK in terms of violence?


Is this thread going to go like every other thread you get on and turn into a pissing contest?


I cant believe you can be so stupid as to argue about violent cultures and stand on the side of the UK!

lee8 Jan 6th 2008 1:41 am

Re: Excited but apprehensive!
 

Originally Posted by twyntub (Post 5747308)
It was a j - o - k - e... funny? As in 'Ha ha'? Humour? Hence the emoticon! :)

I was laugh, "neither did i" was my humourous response.:rofl::p

Geesssh take about given but unable to receive, or don`t tell me I`m not funny only you are.

I forgot your English.;)

rugbymatt Jan 6th 2008 1:42 am

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Originally Posted by lee8 (Post 5747357)
I was laugh, "neither did i" was my humourous response.:rofl::p

Geesssh take about given but unable to receive, or don`t tell me I`m not funny only you are.

I forgot your English.;)

funny you should mention that!!

lee8 Jan 6th 2008 1:45 am

Re: Excited but apprehensive!
 

Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 5747350)
Lee out of decency I will refrain from posting the thousands of happy slapping vids done in the UK.


Come on, are we really going to try and compare a country like Spain to a country like the UK in terms of violence?


Is this thread going to go like every other thread you get on and turn into a pissing contest?


I cant believe you can be so stupid as to argue about violent cultures and stand on the side of the UK!

Obviously not, I did it as a person here stated about the drugs and the youths etc etc being less in Spain.

There are thousands of happy slapping on Spanish sites and gang fights.

But one difference is if you go to a Spanish site and search for English insults you get many more than if your searched English sites looking for English insulting Spanish.

I`ve been told to leave Spain far more in 3 yrs than my OH did in the 15 years in the UK.

I`m again not anti Spanish, just anti Brit ignorance of Spain.:)

rugbymatt Jan 6th 2008 1:50 am

Re: Excited but apprehensive!
 

Originally Posted by lee8 (Post 5747367)
Obviously not, I did it as a person here stated about the drugs and the youths etc etc.

There are thousands of happy slapping on Spanish sites and gang fights.

But one difference is if you go to a Spanish site and search for English insults you get many more than if your searched English sites looking for English insulting Spanish.

I`ve been told to leave Spain far more in 3 yrs than my OH did in the 15 years in the UK.

I`m again not anti Spanish, just anti Brit ignorance of Spain.:)

Twntoodjhfnmgmsb or what ever their username is, was being sarcastic and joining in the piss take that this thread was.

Learn to join in the fun once in a while, or you will just end up making life shite for people who genuinely want and need help on BE.


As for your one man crusade to educate the Spanish, why don't you just worry about your own life and to hell with everyone else.

Ask Xtreme or Mitzy if they have ever been told to go home.

lee8 Jan 6th 2008 1:52 am

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Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 5747350)


I cant believe you can be so stupid as to argue about violent cultures and stand on the side of the UK!

I can`t believe you so stupid to think that was why i posted the vid.

Anything you find in the Uk can be found in Spain, to suggest there isn`t the same is showing a complete lack of ability to comprehend the culture you`ve entered into.

And as you`ve previously stated if your "running away from overcrowding, immigrants, nanny state your gonna be disappointed".

I simply backin up your comments with a small amount of vid to disappoint Twyntubs take of paradise.

:)


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