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Old Sep 10th 2011 | 4:09 am
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Originally Posted by Domino
happens in the uk in all good muslim houses today

failure to comply could lead to honour killing

but there are very few teen pregnancies in those families
Nothing to do with Islam and everything to do with Catholicism. You'll find it is the same in Italy

If a woman got caught having sex before marriage 60 years ago in Spain then they got disowned by the family and would probably end up working as a prositute.

If a single woman got pregnant 35 years ago then it would cause a disgrace in the family and there may have been a cover up where the woman and her mum disappeared for 9 months and then came back with a "little sister"

If it happens now (and it rarely does) then it causes some embarrasment among the grandparents, but thats that.
 
Old Sep 10th 2011 | 4:19 am
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Originally Posted by cricketman
Nothing to do with Islam and everything to do with Catholicism. You'll find it is the same in Italy

If a woman got caught having sex before marriage 60 years ago in Spain then they got disowned by the family and would probably end up working as a prositute.

If a single woman got pregnant 35 years ago then it would cause a disgrace in the family and there may have been a cover up where the woman and her mum disappeared for 9 months and then came back with a "little sister"

If it happens now (and it rarely does) then it causes some embarrasment among the grandparents, but thats that.
Or else end up as a 'Magdalene.' I've read the stories. They would turn your stomach.
 
Old Sep 10th 2011 | 4:19 am
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Originally Posted by bil
Yeah. There were some pretty damn dodgy goings on there, eh?
as you know, since neanderthal times it has been mans way of ensuring the future of the species, keeping the women pregnant. just that nowadays with very very low infant deaths the population is growing like topsy.

same goes with rape by the victor, ensuring the winning blood line takes precendece over that of the loser.
 
Old Sep 10th 2011 | 4:20 am
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Originally Posted by Domino
as you know, since neanderthal times it has been mans way of ensuring the future of the species, keeping the women pregnant. just that nowadays with very very low infant deaths the population is growing like topsy.

same goes with rape by the victor, ensuring the winning blood line takes precendece over that of the loser.
Blimey that's showing our age. You for referring to Topsy, and me for knowing.
 
Old Sep 10th 2011 | 4:23 am
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Originally Posted by cricketman
Nothing to do with Islam and everything to do with Catholicism. You'll find it is the same in Italy

If a woman got caught having sex before marriage 60 years ago in Spain then they got disowned by the family and would probably end up working as a prositute.

If a single woman got pregnant 35 years ago then it would cause a disgrace in the family and there may have been a cover up where the woman and her mum disappeared for 9 months and then came back with a "little sister"

If it happens now (and it rarely does) then it causes some embarrasment among the grandparents, but thats that.
wots that got to do with Italy and Spain..
thats what it was like in all respects in the UK.

we still had sex but were always very very careful as we didnt want the "shame" associated with an unwanted pregnancy.
 
Old Sep 10th 2011 | 4:25 am
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Originally Posted by bil
Blimey that's showing our age. You for referring to Topsy, and me for knowing.
bil, I don't hide my age (any more) and I probably took her out on one or two occaisions, just can't remember if there was any snogging
 
Old Sep 10th 2011 | 4:29 am
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Originally Posted by Domino
wots that got to do with Italy and Spain..
thats what it was like in all respects in the UK.

we still had sex but were always very very careful as we didnt want the "shame" associated with an unwanted pregnancy.
oh that it was like that today - where a pregnancy is seen on both sides as a badge of passage

must stop writing to myself before someone tells me
 
Old Sep 10th 2011 | 4:34 am
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Originally Posted by cricketman
Nothing to do with Islam and everything to do with Catholicism. You'll find it is the same in Italy

If a woman got caught having sex before marriage 60 years ago in Spain then they got disowned by the family and would probably end up working as a prositute.

If a single woman got pregnant 35 years ago then it would cause a disgrace in the family and there may have been a cover up where the woman and her mum disappeared for 9 months and then came back with a "little sister"

If it happens now (and it rarely does) then it causes some embarrasment among the grandparents, but thats that.
It was similar in Scotland 50 years ago, but with a twist in the tail (or is it tale).

If a single woman found herself pregnant, her father, brother or uncles, or all of them would visit the impregnator armed with one or more shotguns. A hurried wedding would invariably follow. You can still get married at Gretna Green, without parental consent from the age of 16.
 
Old Sep 10th 2011 | 4:47 am
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Originally Posted by cricketman
Nothing to do with Islam and everything to do with Catholicism. You'll find it is the same in Italy

If a woman got caught having sex before marriage 60 years ago in Spain then they got disowned by the family and would probably end up working as a prositute.

If a single woman got pregnant 35 years ago then it would cause a disgrace in the family and there may have been a cover up where the woman and her mum disappeared for 9 months and then came back with a "little sister"

If it happens now (and it rarely does) then it causes some embarrasment among the grandparents, but thats that.
If what "happens now (and it rarely does)"?
 
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Originally Posted by jimenato
If what "happens now (and it rarely does)"?
A pregnancy by a single woman. Doesnt happen that often in Spain compared to the UK and US. Although just like in the UK, young Spanish people dont get married much anymore but they have a very low rate of teenage pregnancies whether they were planned or accidental
 
Old Sep 10th 2011 | 6:02 am
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Originally Posted by cricketman
A pregnancy by a single woman. Doesnt happen that often in Spain compared to the UK and US. Although just like in the UK, young Spanish people dont get married much anymore but they have a very low rate of teenage pregnancies whether they were planned or accidental
I think you will find there are quite a lot of pregnancies amongst Spanish teenagers, it's just that they pay a visit to a private clinic to sort the problem out.
 
Old Sep 10th 2011 | 7:05 am
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Hmm... I know several just in my village - nothing to do with me BTW. And yes, the number of abortions is climbing year on year.
 
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Originally Posted by Domino
CM i think you are missing the point of my earlier posting (crossed in the post?)

Spain for example we know and have to some extent bemoaned, has vastly different benefits structure to the uk.
they take them in and then shuffle them on..to the uk, having been processed by another eu country makes them "acceptable".

the biggest problem for countries like uk is the economic migrant, especially those who claim asylum, £millions are spent on proving their ineligibility to support and assistance, by which time they have gone underground and disappeared.

yes i agree there are those brits who just will not get out of bed to work, but basic jsa is only about £69\week. with more and more ethnic employers around they are taking on only certain ethnic\nationalities knowing full well that with a carefully crafted pay policy they can get away with paying below NMW. many of these jobs are in the food growing\picking\preparation areas around me, whole sites speak a single non-english language.
BUT THE PRICE OF FOOD IS STILL RISING.

embarrassed by the Brits ? Yes, but also embarrassed by those who are hiding behind the openness and fairness of the british people.
A very true statement, Spain may have more immigrants than the UK, but they are not sucking from the National Tit.

There are enough nationals already living on handouts, without more and more being let in.

It is about time that the leaders of the country showed some metal.
 
Old Sep 10th 2011 | 8:13 am
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Originally Posted by cricketman
A pregnancy by a single woman. Doesnt happen that often in Spain compared to the UK and US. Although just like in the UK, young Spanish people dont get married much anymore but they have a very low rate of teenage pregnancies whether they were planned or accidental
Strange then that London Abortion clinics have been doing such a roaring trade with young Spanish girls for so many years.

Though I guess they were just away for a brief holiday.

It took right until last year for Spanish abortion laws to come into line with N.Europe.
 
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The more I work with meet other people from around the world the more I like the honesty and fairness of the great British people.
 


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