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SaritaBarcelona Apr 5th 2010 9:46 am

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I have just heard about the election being set for May 6th, is this confirmed? Who do you think will win?! The discussion is who you think will win, rather than who should, perhaps?!

pete_l Apr 5th 2010 11:01 am

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Don't know who will win, but I do know who will lose :thumbdown:
(q: why is it that whoever we vote for, it's always "the government" that gets in?)

bil Apr 5th 2010 9:59 pm

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Originally Posted by pete_l (Post 8474584)
Don't know who will win, but I do know who will lose :thumbdown:
(q: why is it that whoever we vote for, it's always "the government" that gets in?)

Exactly.

Don't forget that at the election your choice is whether the government gets to screw you wearing a red, blue or yellow condom.

Here's my psychic predictions for the next government.

There will be more tax.
There will be more red tape.
There will be less personal freedom.

Those in power will be less accountable.
Those with no power will be more accountable.

Madridboy Apr 5th 2010 10:22 pm

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Originally Posted by bil (Post 8475470)
Exactly.

Don't forget that at the election your choice is whether the government gets to screw you wearing a red, blue or yellow condom.

Here's my psychic predictions for the next government.

There will be more tax.
There will be more red tape.
There will be less personal freedom.

Those in power will be less accountable.
Those with no power will be more accountable.

I have a strange feeling that's a very accurate prediction.

jackytoo Apr 6th 2010 12:38 am

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Just when we are in the UK for a while they announce the election. Can't stand it:eek: Anyone see Brown today..he has been on the news ALL morning shaking hands and trying to look normal...I hate him:thumbdown:

Dick Dasterdly Apr 6th 2010 5:33 am

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Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 8475803)
Just when we are in the UK for a while they announce the election. Can't stand it:eek: Anyone see Brown today..he has been on the news ALL morning shaking hands and trying to look normal...I hate him:thumbdown:

He must be the most arrogant,obnoxious,two-faced,smarmy critter on the face of the planet.
Feel like throwing up every time I see his smirky mush on the box.:frown:
Think I'd prefer to see Bin Ladin to Brown any day of the week,..at least you know where you stand with him.

rugbymatt Apr 6th 2010 5:58 am

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Labour came into power 13 years ago with a deficit of £6 billion... they enter this election with a deficit of £178 billion... now I'm not trying to put words in your mouths or ideas in your heads but I think that speaks for itself really.

bil Apr 6th 2010 8:29 am

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 8476512)
He must be the most arrogant,obnoxious,two-faced,smarmy critter on the face of the planet.
Feel like throwing up every time I see his smirky mush on the box.:frown:
Think I'd prefer to see Bin Ladin to Brown any day of the week,..at least you know where you stand with him.

You say that while Blair lives?

bil Apr 6th 2010 8:31 am

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Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 8476585)
Labour came into power 13 years ago with a deficit of £6 billion... they enter this election with a deficit of £178 billion... now I'm not trying to put words in your mouths or ideas in your heads but I think that speaks for itself really.

Yeah, but as I keep saying, what would it have been if the tories had been in?

I've heard more than one person say that the ninja mortgages et al would have screwed whoever was in power.

Dick Dasterdly Apr 6th 2010 8:58 am

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Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 8476585)
Labour came into power 13 years ago with a deficit of £6 billion... they enter this election with a deficit of £178 billion... now I'm not trying to put words in your mouths or ideas in your heads but I think that speaks for itself really.

They've behaved like a shopoholic wifie turned loose with a bagful of credit cards for the first time in her life,never giving a single thought to how,when or if the debts could ever be repaid.:huh:

Madridboy Apr 6th 2010 10:20 am

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Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 8476585)
Labour came into power 13 years ago with a deficit of £6 billion... they enter this election with a deficit of £178 billion... now I'm not trying to put words in your mouths or ideas in your heads but I think that speaks for itself really.

They could always sell off the nations gold to help put some money back..............oops, they allready did that when gold was at rock (pun intended) bottom prices.

Dick Dasterdly Apr 6th 2010 10:25 am

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Originally Posted by Madridboy (Post 8477246)
They could always sell off the nations gold to help put some money back..............oops, they allready did that when gold was at rock (pun intended) bottom prices.

Yes, and if they print any more money it will end up with less value than a piece of toilet roll,..bottom prices also.:rofl:

SaritaBarcelona Apr 6th 2010 10:30 am

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I can just see the Brits wandering round with wheelbarrows full of useless cash! And to think we were the envy of the world, sigh...

Madridboy Apr 6th 2010 10:51 am

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 8477261)
Yes, and if they print any more money it will end up with less value than a piece of toilet roll,..bottom prices also.:rofl:

:rofl:
But at least they're keeping printers in work :D...........oh no, he wants to do all us out of work as well....http://www.printweek.com/environment...in-four-years/ :frown:

scampicat Apr 10th 2010 9:56 pm

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I think the Tories will win, by a whisker, and it will be a hung Parliament with the Lib Dems holding the balance of power.

That's my prediction.

I'm in a bit of a dilemma. I still have a vote in England and I was going to vote Tory just to get this dreadful Labour Government out. However, my local Labour MP has been a very good one for our town, he has not fiddled his expenses and overall I would like to vote for him. It is also a marginal seat and it won't take much swing to the Tories for him to lose it.

So...what to do?

(I think probably I will vote for him personally and hope he wins but hope that overall his party lose!).

steviedeluxe Apr 10th 2010 10:06 pm

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Based on what the opinion poll bosses are saying (and they're looking at underlying trends) I'm going to predict a Conservative overall majority of about 30.

As a supporter of democracy, this should be a good thing as it will get rid of the corrupt incumbents. I'm just a bit concerned that the Tories got every economic decision wrong during the banking crisis; having said that, their role was to oppose the government, and they may well have done the same had they been in power. Besides which you can say that Gordon Brown got it all wrong prior to the banking crisis (eg allowing the housing bubble to get out of control, spending too much etc)

I don't see any real difference in what will be done after the election. There will be big spending cuts, and people at the bottom of the pile will suffer because of the political and banking cock-ups.

steviedeluxe Apr 10th 2010 10:23 pm

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Another reason why I think the Tories will walk this election, is because the Labour campaign seems so lacklustre, with little to entice voters. If I were them (and accepting they can't promise much new because of lack of money) I'd be concentrating on the fear factor - asking questions like "Will Tory cuts put you out of work?" or "Will the Tory cuts destroy the housing market?" All negative stuff of course (and Labour will have to make major cuts if elected, too) , but the Tories are currently running negative posters about Gordon Brown. End of the day the Labour government comes across as tired and out of ideas. Whether or not you agree with them, the Tories do seem to have more energy and ideas for change, which will appeal to many.

Madridboy Apr 10th 2010 11:08 pm

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Originally Posted by scampicat (Post 8487755)
I think the Tories will win, by a whisker, and it will be a hung Parliament with the Lib Dems holding the balance of power.

That's my prediction.

I'm in a bit of a dilemma. I still have a vote in England and I was going to vote Tory just to get this dreadful Labour Government out. However, my local Labour MP has been a very good one for our town, he has not fiddled his expenses and overall I would like to vote for him. It is also a marginal seat and it won't take much swing to the Tories for him to lose it.

So...what to do?

(I think probably I will vote for him personally and hope he wins but hope that overall his party lose!).

They all come across that way until they get caught lol

scampicat Apr 11th 2010 6:19 am

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Originally Posted by Madridboy (Post 8487900)
They all come across that way until they get caught lol

No apparently it is true in his case.

He also won the Backbencher of the Year award in 2008. :)

HBG Apr 11th 2010 6:47 am

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I’m surprised so many people want the toffs back in, perhaps we got used to bowing and scraping to our superiors from Eton and missed them over the past 13 years. Let’s stand to attention again when the red-coated hunt rides past, let’s get on our knees when our betters extend their moist hands, let’s have street parties with David’s, George’s and Boris’s heads on the mugs; let’s remember the Empire and get rid of the horrible foreigners who have invaded our shores.

The pound will get strong again, and who wants freedom anyway?

rugbymatt Apr 11th 2010 6:55 am

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Originally Posted by HBG (Post 8488514)
I’m surprised so many people want the toffs back in, perhaps we got used to bowing and scraping to our superiors from Eton and missed them over the past 13 years.

Google where Harriet Harman went to school.

HBG Apr 11th 2010 7:34 am

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I'm not going to bother, but I know it wasn't Eton.

HBG Apr 11th 2010 7:57 am

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Come to think of it, I wish my parents had had the lineage and money to have sent me to Eton. I would be sitting in the house of lords now, smothered in ermine, passing judgment on the lowly serfs.

SaritaBarcelona Apr 11th 2010 1:48 pm

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Perhaps Labour actually don't want to win!! Let's face it, they would be better off letting someone else clear up their mess (I almost used the word caca but don't know if that is allowed!). I know I wouldn't want more of the same (but that's why I'm not in politics). I really don't know who to vote for. Don't have UK TV at the moment so am blissfully unaware of certain parts, keeping abreast by BBC news on the Tinternet. What about the LibDems? This might sound really naive but I have never been able to understand why they aren't more popular. Can anyone explain please? (this question makes me sound like a dumb blonde, sorry but I genuinely need to know!)

scampicat Apr 11th 2010 4:44 pm

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As regards the Tory 'Toffs'and being educated at Eton, at least they have had the input and education to be leaders (and Tony Blair didn't go to the local comprehensive either).

Do you really want Bill the Boilermaker from Ar$e End Comprehensive running the country?

HBG Apr 11th 2010 5:33 pm

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It makes sense, these people are trained to lead us and what does Bill the Boilermaker know about anything after his training at the shitty local comprehensive? It’s bad enough women having the vote, but people from comprehensive schools?

I actually fancy that Liberal chap whose name I always forget, with the nice Spanish wife.

rugbymatt Apr 11th 2010 6:25 pm

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Originally Posted by HBG (Post 8488571)
I'm not going to bother, but I know it wasn't Eton.

Nope it wasn't, but it wasn't the local comprehensive either.

Dick Dasterdly Apr 11th 2010 7:14 pm

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Originally Posted by scampicat (Post 8489240)
As regards the Tory 'Toffs'and being educated at Eton, at least they have had the input and education to be leaders (and Tony Blair didn't go to the local comprehensive either).

Do you really want Bill the Boilermaker from Ar$e End Comprehensive running the country?

Not really,..prefer Bob the Builder myself,..he promised to fix me planning permission for my latest extension.;)

rugbymatt Apr 11th 2010 7:40 pm

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 8489408)
Not really,..prefer Bob the Builder myself,..he promised to fix me planning permission for my latest extension.;)

The Conservatives are talking about taking away the need for planning permission.

agoreira Apr 11th 2010 7:45 pm

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Originally Posted by scampicat (Post 8489240)
Do you really want Bill the Boilermaker from Ar$e End Comprehensive running the country?

We've had worse than that, whilst Ton was on his hols, we had Pressie, a former ship's steward. :rofl:

bil Apr 11th 2010 10:22 pm

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Originally Posted by steviedeluxe (Post 8487765)
I don't see any real difference in what will be done after the election. There will be big spending cuts, and people at the bottom of the pile will suffer because of the political and banking cock-ups.


Yeah. It's the rich wot gets the pleasure, it's the poor wot gets the blame.

Oh yes. I'm`pig sick of the people who act as tho once we get the tories in, it will be heaven on earth, everyone happy.... yada yada yada. It's a well known fact that the tories are the party of the poor sods at the bottom.

elspeth sinclair Apr 18th 2010 12:46 am

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Originally Posted by SaritaBarcelona (Post 8474455)
I have just heard about the election being set for May 6th, is this confirmed? Who do you think will win?! The discussion is who you think will win, rather than who should, perhaps?!

Perhaps we should be more concerned about who wins in Spain after all we live here.

SaritaBarcelona Apr 18th 2010 8:14 am

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You're right Elspeth, but people who have family, savings, investments, etc. in the UK will be affected by the results (or not, whatever you believe on this matter). It will also affect whether people can afford to buy properties overseas, etc., depending on what happens with interest rates and the like, and of course whether anyone ever dares bring in the euro...

rugbymatt Apr 18th 2010 8:24 am

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Originally Posted by bil (Post 8489728)
Yeah. It's the rich wot gets the pleasure, it's the poor wot gets the blame.

Oh yes. I'm`pig sick of the people who act as tho once we get the tories in, it will be heaven on earth, everyone happy.... yada yada yada. It's a well known fact that the tories are the party of the poor sods at the bottom.

Problem is mate, Labour haven't done that good a job have they? I mean really? As far as many consider its all been a bit of luck and we must remember this little gem....



bil Apr 19th 2010 7:50 am

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Originally Posted by rugbymatt (Post 8505561)
Problem is mate, Labour haven't done that good a job have they? I mean really?

Well, I look at it like this. There are some to say that they should take the credit, for good or bad, and some that say they have as much control as a ping pong ball in a hurricane.

If the latter, then it matters not who is in.

If the former, then I (and I suspect a lot of other people too) haven't forgotten the Lamont disaster vs the period of steady growth under Brown. We haven't forgotten the madness of privitising essential services, or the deregulating of the banks. I genuinely believe that at the time the gold was sold and the pensions were pillaged, then whoever was in at that time would probably ahve done much the same. Easy to say now with the clear vision that is hindsight, that both were dumbass ideas, but at the time it looked like a good idea.

Matt, in all honesty, I don't think any of them present me with anyone that I think merits my vote, anyone who inspires or impresses me, and that is possibly the saddest thing of all.

Is there any surprise that people don't bother to vote these days?

By all means make it compulsory, but if you do, I demand there to be a box on it which I can tick that says 'I hate you all' and that they have to announce how many of those were ticked.

On a different note, I would love to see a campaign where we could all vote for which politician we would like to see executed on prime time TV.

OK, so the sentance would never be carried out, but I think it would act as a valuable indicator to some of the shifty scum that they are not universally liked, and who knows, it might make them think twice before they screw us over the next time.

bobthelocksmith Apr 19th 2010 8:30 am

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Originally Posted by bil (Post 8508132)
On a different note, I would love to see a campaign where we could all vote for which politician we would like to see executed on prime time TV.

.

Trouble with that idea is that there wouldn't be any mps left!! Speaking as one who not long ago lost my job and a substantial chunk of pension which was caused to a large extent by the recession, I think that the labour / Brown administration has lost all credibility. No more boom and bust -err no, less regulation for Banks err no -Brown now accepts it should have been more not less, the whole Iraq fiasco - - these are not minor errors of judgement and they clearly need to go. Maybe the Tories are not much better but they also will have learnt from Labours mistakes and at least they can start with a relatively clean slate (inevitably as they haven't been in power for so long). MPs have been greedy and I think overpaid and they need some form of monitoring - once they are in they are in for the duration with no performance or ability checks unlike any other industry. While we're at it they should change the Health Service policy of 6 months residency then claim unlimited Health benefits unlike any other EU country - no wonder asylum seekers are queuing up at Calais. If they changed the rules the problem would be reduced massively overnight (maybe they would stay in France?)
:huh:

bil Apr 20th 2010 5:32 am

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Originally Posted by bobthelocksmith (Post 8508189)
Trouble with that idea is that there wouldn't be any mps left!! Speaking as one who not long ago lost my job and a substantial chunk of pension which was caused to a large extent by the recession, I think that the labour / Brown administration has lost all credibility. No more boom and bust -err no, less regulation for Banks err no -Brown now accepts it should have been more not less, the whole Iraq fiasco - - these are not minor errors of judgement and they clearly need to go. Maybe the Tories are not much better but they also will have learnt from Labours mistakes and at least they can start with a relatively clean slate (inevitably as they haven't been in power for so long). MPs have been greedy and I think overpaid and they need some form of monitoring - once they are in they are in for the duration with no performance or ability checks unlike any other industry. While we're at it they should change the Health Service policy of 6 months residency then claim unlimited Health benefits unlike any other EU country - no wonder asylum seekers are queuing up at Calais. If they changed the rules the problem would be reduced massively overnight (maybe they would stay in France?)
:huh:

Yeah, but as I say, would any of the others have been at all better?

Look at the tories and Iraq. They were in opposition at the time and their job was to support the government, but not without demanding proof first. After it was clear that the whole WMD fiasco was a lie, the then tory leader said that despite that he would still have followed Bush into Iraq.

That's frightening.

Fredbargate Apr 20th 2010 6:46 pm

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I am going to vote for the Icelandic Volcano Party. They have done more to stop imigration in the last five days than the Labour Party has done in the last ten years.

Dick Dasterdly Apr 20th 2010 8:54 pm

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Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 8511231)
I am going to vote for the Icelandic Volcano Party. They have done more to stop imigration in the last five days than the Labour Party has done in the last ten years.

I'd much prefer a hung Parliament,... but only on condition that the first one to get hung is Gordon Bown.:rofl:

Madridboy Apr 20th 2010 9:16 pm

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Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 8511231)
I am going to vote for the Icelandic Volcano Party. They have done more to stop imigration in the last five days than the Labour Party has done in the last ten years.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:


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