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Old Nov 7th 2023, 10:47 am
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Originally Posted by growinspain
At least that's a start. One country that could host millions of people would be Kazakhstan and since they technically want to be part of Europe when it comes to sport ( see UEFA ), a deal with them would also make sense.
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Old Nov 7th 2023, 8:07 pm
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Originally Posted by Moses2013
At least that's a start. One country that could host millions of people would be Kazakhstan and since they technically want to be part of Europe when it comes to sport ( see UEFA ), a deal with them would also make sense.
Spain need to do the same in Senegal as they seem to be the majority...
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Old Nov 14th 2023, 7:53 pm
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Originally Posted by VFR
I do not want you to say anything nor did I ask.
Ah, the forum pub bore then.

They could well have passed through Shangri-la on the way but they have only one place in mind, well bugger me they sounds just like the untold thousands who have been crossing the channel over the past few decades.
Sorry, are we talking about British pensioners now?

Someone really seeking asylum would be happy to reach the vast bulk of any EU country but no they have just one destination in mind & you know where so it is clear that they are economic migrants.
British pensioners having just one destination in mind could live perfectly well in any EU country but they choose Spain so it's clear they're economic migrants.

Known to most as illegal immigrants.
Those that never sorted their residency out I guess.
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Old Nov 15th 2023, 9:51 am
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So you choose Spain to retire to, you may have purchased property, you may pay rent, you bring along your pension(s) which is spent within the Spanish economy; how much does a typical brit retiree cost the Spanish taxpayer?

The illegals flooding the EU & UK bring nothing and contribute nothing, the vast majority cost the taxpayer...£7,000,000 a day in hotel bills alone.

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Old Nov 15th 2023, 10:17 am
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Originally Posted by bob_bob
So you choose Spain to retire to, you may have purchased property, you may pay rent, you bring along your pension(s) which is spent within the Spanish economy; how much does a typical brit retiree cost the Spanish taxpayer?

The illegals flooding the EU & UK bring nothing and contribute nothing, the vast majority cost the taxpayer...£7,000,000 a day in hotel bills alone.
That depends on the country. The UK's policy is not to build immigration centres, not let them work, pay for hotels, and process them extremely slowly as if it dissuaded immigration but all it does is saddle the government with huge bills. Spain's policy is more pragmatic and they do contribute.
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Old Nov 16th 2023, 6:56 am
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Originally Posted by bob_bob
So you choose Spain to retire to, you may have purchased property, you may pay rent, you bring along your pension(s) which is spent within the Spanish economy; how much does a typical brit retiree cost the Spanish taxpayer?

The illegals flooding the EU & UK bring nothing and contribute nothing, the vast majority cost the taxpayer...£7,000,000 a day in hotel bills alone.
Not what the virtue signalling few on here wish to hear though Bob.
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Old Nov 16th 2023, 10:55 am
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Originally Posted by bob_bob
The illegals flooding the EU & UK bring nothing and contribute nothing, the vast majority cost the taxpayer...
I have compassion for everyone but looking at the numbers brexit was like economic suicide. Instead of cutting EU/EEA immigration we should have boosted it at the expense of non-EU/EEA immigration (which the gov't always had 100% control over, even when part of the EU):



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Old Nov 16th 2023, 5:44 pm
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Originally Posted by rspltd
.....I’m afraid a complex issue such as this deserves a better response rather than one that is disingenuous. I was told by a Spanish friend yesterday the the daily number of immigrants into the Canaries is causing major issues and that a number are being airlifted into Madrid on a daily basis. I haven’t bothered to verify this but have no reason to believe it’s not true.
So it's a complex issue but you "have a friend" who tells you something you don't bother to check.
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Old Nov 16th 2023, 5:50 pm
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Originally Posted by bob_bob
So you choose Spain to retire to, you may have purchased property, you may pay rent, you bring along your pension(s) which is spent within the Spanish economy; how much does a typical brit retiree cost the Spanish taxpayer?

The illegals flooding the EU & UK bring nothing and contribute nothing, the vast majority cost the taxpayer...£7,000,000 a day in hotel bills alone.
If they came with money and assets and didn’t rely on public services then it wouldn’t be such a problem. Problem is they come with nothing and require looking after at expense to the tax payer. Each individual one that comes makes the state that little bit more poorer.
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Old Nov 16th 2023, 8:23 pm
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Originally Posted by Stingychips
If they came with money and assets and didn’t rely on public services then it wouldn’t be such a problem. Problem is they come with nothing and require looking after at expense to the tax payer. Each individual one that comes makes the state that little bit more poorer.
You have misunderstood what Bob said, the point made was the same as you make in that they (the illegal economic migrants) are a burden on any country they target who were stupid enough to sign up for the UN charter.
Yes on paper all the luvvies hugged each other and ordered another designer coffee with syrup (the dimwits really do) in total ignorance that any charter will immediatly be abused by all & sundry at the expense of those genuinely seeking asylum.
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Old Nov 16th 2023, 8:34 pm
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Originally Posted by VFR
You have misunderstood what Bob said, the point made was the same as you make in that they (the illegal economic migrants) are a burden on any country they target who were stupid enough to sign up for the UN charter.
Are.you talking about the 1951 Refugee Convention where 146 countries signed up?
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Old Nov 17th 2023, 11:54 am
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Originally Posted by DLC
Are.you talking about the 1951 Refugee Convention where 146 countries signed up?
1951 (LOL)
No the one that Teresa May roped the UK into and the EU also. (As you most probably know)
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Old Nov 17th 2023, 12:24 pm
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Originally Posted by VFR
1951 (LOL)
No the one that Teresa May roped the UK into and the EU also. (As you most probably know)
No idea. May was around for 9 years as Home Secretary and PM. Try mentioning the name of the agreement or a date.
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Old Nov 24th 2023, 2:48 am
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Originally Posted by EU.flag
Nope, it never had anything to do with Schengen zone. While UK was in EU, it was never member of Schengen, but still able to return refugees back to France or EU.

What you are referring is know as Dublin convention for EU member states only. So, by leaving EU, UK has left Dublin convention and lost right to return refugees back to EU.

https://home-affairs.ec.europa.eu/po...-regulation_en
Ah yes, the Dublin agreement that ended up with more coming to the UK than leaving it.

https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/bri...-dublin-system
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Correct. In UK brexit was advertised as "getting back control of borders". But reality now is quite opposite.
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