Lynn R

I remember reading reports about these events of Spanish migrants from the Canary islands arriving in Venezuela, many years ago. An exact parallel of what is happening today, in reverse.

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Moses2013

Things always happen and just because these villages became depopulated then doesn't mean it has to be the same today. Governments across the EU throw out so much money to people who don't work, then I don't see why they can't use money to create work. We hear about an ageing population, why not build care homes and some of the refugees can work there. Since we need more homes, young Spanish can live there who have digital jobs.

olivefarmer

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67227686

VFR

LOL, I remember reading reports = I have spent all day goggling anything to support my agenda.

Fredbargate

There are non so blind as those who will not see.
Or refuse to see.

Lynn R

Most people who have contributed to this thread have done so in a considered way, actually putting forward a view or giving information. I don't agree with some of them, but at least they have something to offer. And then there's you, who obviously lacks the intellectual capacity to take part in a discussion so has resorted to being abusive to at least 3 different people.

Stingychips

Empty villages in the mountains where climate change has made it that it hasn’t rained properly in years. People living in 40 degree heat without electricity and running water where I lived in Spain. Refuges would probably find they had it better in their homeland.

growinspain

Well, then they would go home and pass the word that Spain is not the country to go to....

Moses2013

Maybe the real solution is to make it more attractive for them back home. With all the millions/billions spent, the EU would be better off to pay people who stay in their country. Instead of creating slums in Europe, the EU could build controlled social welfare offices in these countries and they collect the money there. Better for both sides if anyone was honest.

Stingychips

I wouldn’t worry. ETIAS is coming in next year. Once that system is In place then illegal migration will stop. Lol

Finknottle

One of the key points in the Schumann Declaration (1950)

EU.flag

Misguided opinion.
ETIAS purpose is to keep track of short term legal visitors, to track overstay.
Never intended to deal with illegal immigration.

Stingychips

Pretty pointless in this day and age really then. Should be concentrating on illegal visitors rather than legal. No wonder it keeps getting pushed back every year.

Norm_uk

I think people concerned about this issue aren't really worried about if the UK has taken in more or less than other countries. Every nation has different views and shouldn't have to be told they need to do more or less because their neighbours have - that should be the decision of the people in the nation, and especially in the areas they are sending people to live in.

In any case the UK not approving more applications may also mean the UK is slower in processing than other countries - likely due to what seems to be growing incompetence across all levels of government. Most people seem concerned about the scale of the issue, the lack of management, the pressure on housing and medical services, the disproportionate numbers of young men and the cost to the taxpayer etc.

Immigration isn't limited to asylum seekers of course. And the UK has taken in millions of legal migrants since the Blair years. A much higher rate than it ever did before in history.

Expecting there to be no reaction for any reason seems unrealistic (they never had a vote on large scale immigration, but have consistently broke election promises to reduce it). There is an insinuation by many that no reaction is allowed except approval - even in places where longstanding ethnic groups are now the minority - something we would be outraged about if it were outside Europe. Even when people have seen rising crime or inter-ethnic conflict that wasn't there before we have even seen the police and even some politicians and the media try to downplay it for years until it couldn't be ignored any more - the grooming gangs scandal for example.

The poor management of the system overall by successive governments combined with a national debate level that prefers emotive name calling and party politics thinking probably adds to what is increasingly become a tinderbox as people start to wake up to the fact that millions of people are not changing their loyalties or group interest aims simply because they live in the UK or EU and have citizenship.

growinspain

Italy has the right idea...
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67339596