Driving in spain
Apr 21st 2008, 3:22 pm
#17
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Re: Driving in spain
Just to point out that residence certificate or tarjeta de residencia, no longer exists for EU citizens, the only certificate you can now get is a NIE, which yes you will need for any taxable transaction such as registering a car in your name and of course you will need an address but not necessarily your own house (as you are just arriving).
Apr 21st 2008, 3:49 pm
#18
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Re: Driving in spain
I would just like to say a thank-you to you ALL for your most helpful advise and say I will speak again soon, got a meeting to attend to this evening and need to sign out now to go and get ready. Just wanted to say thank-you before I left. thumbsup:
Apr 21st 2008, 3:55 pm
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Re: Driving in spain
About 15 years ago the UK was the most expensive place in Europe to purchase a car from (RHD) but due to a lot of pressure from joe public the manufacturers and the government had to take note and our prices fell in line with the rest of Europe. So the 'RHD Tax' as some people called it is no more.
Present day market as Brits love everything to be new a shiny and the fact that we're a tiny island means the second hand values are quite dire.
Pre-owned LHD cars are more expensive to buy in any part of Europe compared to the RHD versions, that's unfortunately a fact as LHD has a much bigger market than RHD.
If you're German say for example it's perfectly normal for people from 5+ countries to express interest in your vehicle. When was the last time you got interest from Cypress or some other RHD country when you've tried to sell your RHD car in the UK?
Sure there are some complete idiots who are trying their arm and day light robbing people on eBay for LHD vehicles (some are a good 8,000 quid more than what you would pay in the country it came from) but there are genuine people out there and well you would expect to pay a small premium ontop of their purchase price as you have to remember it's expensive to bring a car across Europe and then register it on UK plates.
But generally even taken that into effect you can still make a substantial saving buying a LHD car in the UK or anywhere else in Europe compared to prices in Spain and Portugal, especially if you're buying something near new or big and lumpy/expensive.
We've had clients in the past that have bought a car(s) from us and move to Spain to have a call a few weeks later asking us for 2-4 more as they want to sell them out there.
Hope this has helped explain the situation concerning price comparisons and the reasoning about it.
Present day market as Brits love everything to be new a shiny and the fact that we're a tiny island means the second hand values are quite dire.
Pre-owned LHD cars are more expensive to buy in any part of Europe compared to the RHD versions, that's unfortunately a fact as LHD has a much bigger market than RHD.
If you're German say for example it's perfectly normal for people from 5+ countries to express interest in your vehicle. When was the last time you got interest from Cypress or some other RHD country when you've tried to sell your RHD car in the UK?
Sure there are some complete idiots who are trying their arm and day light robbing people on eBay for LHD vehicles (some are a good 8,000 quid more than what you would pay in the country it came from) but there are genuine people out there and well you would expect to pay a small premium ontop of their purchase price as you have to remember it's expensive to bring a car across Europe and then register it on UK plates.
But generally even taken that into effect you can still make a substantial saving buying a LHD car in the UK or anywhere else in Europe compared to prices in Spain and Portugal, especially if you're buying something near new or big and lumpy/expensive.
We've had clients in the past that have bought a car(s) from us and move to Spain to have a call a few weeks later asking us for 2-4 more as they want to sell them out there.
Hope this has helped explain the situation concerning price comparisons and the reasoning about it.
Apr 21st 2008, 4:18 pm
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Apr 22nd 2008, 7:03 pm
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Re: Driving in spain
ok so I failed my uk driving test today and only have 4 weeks left until I move over to spain, im trying to get a resit but Im not sure Im going to pass in time, so Im now considering plan B. Am I right in thinking that in order to ride a scooter you need to attend a motor school? does anyone know of one near Gib, la linea, Soto area, and how long it takes to get the permit, and also does anyone know roughly how much annual insurance would be (im 24). thanks in advance
Apr 23rd 2008, 2:12 pm
#25
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Re: Driving in spain
Hi,
I bought a new car a month ago I needed,
My NIE (mines the new type on the green sheet)
My passport
My padron
And the stickers with the barcodes on? (no idea what they are called)
Also had to have proof of insurance when I collected the car, that was easy I gave my insurance all the details about a week before (Direct Linea) then when I went to pick up the car, they just faxed it through
I did not need anything to show I owned my house, or that I rented
Garage was useless though, car was not ready, was not cleaned, they did not show me how everything worked, ok sounds stupid, but when its dark and you drive off, and realise its got no fuel in it,
it would of been handy if they had shown me where the button is to unlock the petrol cap!
etc......... this is the 5th new car ive had (2 here- 3 in the UK) it was the worse service ive had
PS, if part exchanging an old Spanish car, they want all the old suma (road tax) bills, and for it to show its paid
I bought a new car a month ago I needed,
My NIE (mines the new type on the green sheet)
My passport
My padron
And the stickers with the barcodes on? (no idea what they are called)
Also had to have proof of insurance when I collected the car, that was easy I gave my insurance all the details about a week before (Direct Linea) then when I went to pick up the car, they just faxed it through
I did not need anything to show I owned my house, or that I rented
Garage was useless though, car was not ready, was not cleaned, they did not show me how everything worked, ok sounds stupid, but when its dark and you drive off, and realise its got no fuel in it,
it would of been handy if they had shown me where the button is to unlock the petrol cap!etc......... this is the 5th new car ive had (2 here- 3 in the UK) it was the worse service ive had
PS, if part exchanging an old Spanish car, they want all the old suma (road tax) bills, and for it to show its paid
Apr 23rd 2008, 5:48 pm
#26
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Re: Driving in spain
I can see why the second hand car in Spain holds its value. I have a transit here that is red rotten with rust around the arches, door at the back etc.
Saw one in Spain last year, years and years older than mine and not a touch of rust on it!
Saw one in Spain last year, years and years older than mine and not a touch of rust on it!
Apr 23rd 2008, 5:50 pm
#27
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Re: Driving in spain
Depends where you are ..... near the coast with the salt in the air you'll still find the results of corrosion on cars
Apr 23rd 2008, 5:54 pm
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Re: Driving in spain
At least tho they aren't basted in salt water like they are in the UK.
I liked what the French do, or someone, can't remember which country for certain, but all the crap wine is used as antifreeze spray on the roads.
In the UK, the road verges are so salty that the halophyte (or is it halophillic?) plant Dutch Scurvy Grass has spread all over the country, with the seeds spread by lorries driving inland from the coast.
I liked what the French do, or someone, can't remember which country for certain, but all the crap wine is used as antifreeze spray on the roads.
In the UK, the road verges are so salty that the halophyte (or is it halophillic?) plant Dutch Scurvy Grass has spread all over the country, with the seeds spread by lorries driving inland from the coast.
Apr 23rd 2008, 8:49 pm
#29
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Re: Driving in spain
Bil, we have our roads salted quite often up here in the North. But cars do not rust and they also hold their value too. The value bit we do not understand as we have seen what we would call scrapers for a lot of money.
Apr 23rd 2008, 8:54 pm
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Re: Driving in spain
Scrapers as in dragging on the ground??
Down in Cadiz, we are unlikely to see any risk of frosty roads!!!
Down in Cadiz, we are unlikely to see any risk of frosty roads!!!