Driving down and renting in lockdown.
#32
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Re: Driving down and renting in lockdown.
Looking at the EU’s vaccination project it will be along time before they allow travel. France and Germany will be having another wave of covid deaths as the UK is lifting restrictions. They are sat on millions on Oxford jabs but won’t take them. What absolute idiots. If more countries don’t leave the EU after this fiasco they will have to thank the lord.
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I know there are possible problems with giving the vaccination to older people. I have evidence that it has happened the other way round - Google "is nolotil dangerous" - the answer is Yes it can be to the British
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Re: Driving down and renting in lockdown.
What I have never understood is, why the UK has such a high death rate.
They talk about obseity, BAME and poor living conditions but all countries have these things.
At the end of the day surely the priority is keeping the mortality rate down. Stopping the virus circulating isn't the ultimate objective in itself although obviously less virus=less deaths but it's not the only factor.
But then there's long Covid.
And the knock on effects.
Nightmare.
They talk about obseity, BAME and poor living conditions but all countries have these things.
At the end of the day surely the priority is keeping the mortality rate down. Stopping the virus circulating isn't the ultimate objective in itself although obviously less virus=less deaths but it's not the only factor.
But then there's long Covid.
And the knock on effects.
Nightmare.
#35
Re: Driving down and renting in lockdown.
What I have never understood is, why the UK has such a high death rate.
They talk about obseity, BAME and poor living conditions but all countries have these things.
At the end of the day surely the priority is keeping the mortality rate down. Stopping the virus circulating isn't the ultimate objective in itself although obviously less virus=less deaths but it's not the only factor.
But then there's long Covid.
And the knock on effects.
Nightmare.
They talk about obseity, BAME and poor living conditions but all countries have these things.
At the end of the day surely the priority is keeping the mortality rate down. Stopping the virus circulating isn't the ultimate objective in itself although obviously less virus=less deaths but it's not the only factor.
But then there's long Covid.
And the knock on effects.
Nightmare.
At the height of deaths , over 1500 per day over 1000 of these were in London ,this should tell you everything.
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Re: Driving down and renting in lockdown.
Plus unfortunately, UK became the home of new variants (Kent, London, Liverpool and European entry point for South African), which are highly infectious and more deadly.
#37
Re: Driving down and renting in lockdown.
Which is down to thoughtless idiots travelling unnecessarily .
#38
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Re: Driving down and renting in lockdown.
UK government kept the border open until late in January, other than need to self-isolate for 14 days, later reduced to 10. Also mobility within England wasn't controlled until the latest lockdown (shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted ...)
Last edited by Joppa; Feb 25th 2021 at 6:55 pm.
#39
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Re: Driving down and renting in lockdown.
Thanks to all the other posters that have offered some constructive comments which is really appreciated.
Regards
Mark
#40
Re: Driving down and renting in lockdown.
Whoa, of course I know what is going on in the world after contracting covid last March and working in the NHS. But believe it or not there are still people who are managing to move around albeit with difficulty. My question was whether anyone had attempted to drive to Spain during lockdown and succeeded. It was a genuine question as my wife and I are in a desperate situation in the UK and being able to make the move now would be a huge benefit.
Thanks to all the other posters that have offered some constructive comments which is really appreciated.
Regards
Mark
Thanks to all the other posters that have offered some constructive comments which is really appreciated.
Regards
Mark
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Re: Driving down and renting in lockdown.
Whoa, of course I know what is going on in the world after contracting covid last March and working in the NHS. But believe it or not there are still people who are managing to move around albeit with difficulty. My question was whether anyone had attempted to drive to Spain during lockdown and succeeded. It was a genuine question as my wife and I are in a desperate situation in the UK and being able to make the move now would be a huge benefit.
Thanks to all the other posters that have offered some constructive comments which is really appreciated.
Regards
Mark
Thanks to all the other posters that have offered some constructive comments which is really appreciated.
Regards
Mark
For example, yesterday evening the French PM announced that, among other regions, most of the "Hauts de France" (including Calais and Dunkerque which has already been targetted), the Paris Region and the Eure & Loir (south of Le Havre and Ouistreham) will be under strict surveillance. Even if you managed to leave the UK and get through a port of entry in Bretagne, your UK-registered car would be like a beacon for roving gendarmes anywhere. Not to mention the nationwide curfew after 18h00, and driving through France after that time to look for a place to rent in Spain isn't covered by the Attestation justifying exemptions....
Presuming that there are no restrictions, have you considered going to the Republic of Ireland temporarily if your situation in the UK is desperate? When the Covid Situation is under control, you could continue with your Spanish dreams from there....
#42
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Re: Driving down and renting in lockdown.
Whoa, of course I know what is going on in the world after contracting covid last March and working in the NHS. But believe it or not there are still people who are managing to move around albeit with difficulty. My question was whether anyone had attempted to drive to Spain during lockdown and succeeded. It was a genuine question as my wife and I are in a desperate situation in the UK and being able to make the move now would be a huge benefit.
Thanks to all the other posters that have offered some constructive comments which is really appreciated.
Regards
Mark
Thanks to all the other posters that have offered some constructive comments which is really appreciated.
Regards
Mark
Mark- what on earth is so desperate about your situation in the UK that you need to drive in the middle of a pandemic to a foreign country and live there?
#43
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Re: Driving down and renting in lockdown.
Another thing, what if Spain gets into a bad place with Covid and goes onto the UK's mandatory quarantine list when your 90 days run out and you have to leave? You would have a choice between taking the rap for overstaying in Schengen, and paying for 10 days isolation in a UK hotel. Again it might take the shine off the trip.
If neither of those would be a problem for you, clearly money isn't a problem. In which case, why not find somewhere more pleasant in the UK to hole up until this thing is over? The end is just about in sight. Is it really worth putting yourself legally and morally in the wrong at this stage by behaving anti-socially, and risking eye-watering costs and consequences?
Last edited by EuroTrash; Feb 26th 2021 at 8:12 am.
#44
Re: Driving down and renting in lockdown.
What I have never understood is, why the UK has such a high death rate.
They talk about obseity, BAME and poor living conditions but all countries have these things.
At the end of the day surely the priority is keeping the mortality rate down. Stopping the virus circulating isn't the ultimate objective in itself although obviously less virus=less deaths but it's not the only factor.
But then there's long Covid.
And the knock on effects.
Nightmare.
They talk about obseity, BAME and poor living conditions but all countries have these things.
At the end of the day surely the priority is keeping the mortality rate down. Stopping the virus circulating isn't the ultimate objective in itself although obviously less virus=less deaths but it's not the only factor.
But then there's long Covid.
And the knock on effects.
Nightmare.
Someone also kept skipping Cobra meetings, as was to busy in pub. And so on...
Still wondering why?
Still wonder why USA has over half mil dead?