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Old Feb 23rd 2021, 8:52 pm
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Hi All,

Ideally we want to rent a property for 3-4 months in the Almeria region and we were hoping to make the move and drive down in the next few weeks. We're wondering if anyone has successfully done something similar while lockdown is still on and if they encountered any issues?

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Old Feb 23rd 2021, 9:27 pm
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Originally Posted by dieselracer13 View Post
Hi All,

Ideally we want to rent a property for 3-4 months in the Almeria region and we were hoping to make the move and drive down in the next few weeks. We're wondering if anyone has successfully done something similar while lockdown is still on and if they encountered any issues?

Regards

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Driving from where and what is your status in Spain? It will depend on rules in your current country and any you'd pass through (i.e. you can't leave the UK for leisure purposes until May at the earliest, and France wouldn't let you in anyway unless you come under one of the exemptions, etc). If you can clarify then people can help.

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Driving from where and what is your status in Spain? It will depend on rules in your current country and any you'd pass through (i.e. you can't leave the UK for leisure purposes until May at the earliest, and France wouldn't let you in anyway unless you come under one of the exemptions, etc). If you can clarify then people can help.
Apologies, I wasn't very specific. We will be driving from the UK. We intend to rent a property before arriving in Spain for 3-4 months with a view to a permanent move. In our mind this is a potential relocation to Spain not a holiday.

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Under Schengen rules, you can only stay in Schengen area (including France en-route and Spain) for 90-in-180 days. You can't extend your stay after that, and have to leave Schengen for 90 days before you can return. In order to live long-term/settle in Spain, you now need to get a visa in UK from Spanish consulate, for which there is financial and health insurance requirements. Currently consulates aren't processing visa applications under Covid restrictions.
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You have to be joking! The borders to Andalucia are closed and no one is allowed to enter. Please stay away. The police are setting up road blocks to prevent entry. Do you not read the newspapers?

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Originally Posted by dieselracer13 View Post
Apologies, I wasn't very specific. We will be driving from the UK. We intend to rent a property before arriving in Spain for 3-4 months with a view to a permanent move. In our mind this is a potential relocation to Spain not a holiday.

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Ah, ok. I wasn’t sure if you were already in another area in Spain. In which case, you’ll need to wait and while and see what the rules are in the UK/Spain/France then as what you’re proposing isn’t allowed under current rules.

The good folks on the forum will help you work out the visa eligibility side of things and how you can get one now that Brexit has happened.

Good luck.
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Spain's guidance is far more clear-cut than the UK's, if you're not a resident you shouldn't be entering the country. If you drive into the country in a British car you might as well paint a huge target on it. If you manage to enter France.

Spain will announce something just before the 2nd of March as to whether or not the entry ban on non-resident Brits will carry on.

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Under Schengen rules, you can only stay in Schengen area (including France en-route and Spain) for 90-in-180 days. You can't extend your stay after that, and have to leave Schengen for 90 days before you can return. In order to live long-term/settle in Spain, you now need to get a visa in UK from Spanish consulate, for which there is financial and health insurance requirements. Currently consulates aren't processing visa applications under Covid restrictions.
Hola,

Sorry but I disagree; to know whether or not you can enter the Schengen area, simply think of today as day 180 and yesterday as day 179. now if in the previous 180 days, you have spent less than 90 days in the Schengen area, then you may enter it until your count is 90 days in the previous 180.

For example today is 14th July and you spent the 1st January until the 13th January, and 14th April until 29th June un Spain. that is 90 days - However your 180 day count back is back to 14th January so you have not spent 90 days in the Schengen area. so you may enter for 14 days

The real point is the 180 days is a rolling day count - you do not have to spend 90 days before you can enter again

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Sorry but I disagree; to know whether or not you can enter the Schengen area, simply think of today as day 180 and yesterday as day 179. now if in the previous 180 days, you have spent less than 90 days in the Schengen area, then you may enter it until your count is 90 days in the previous 180.

For example today is 14th July and you spent the 1st January until the 13th January, and 14th April until 29th June un Spain. that is 90 days - However your 180 day count back is back to 14th January so you have not spent 90 days in the Schengen area. so you may enter for 14 days

The real point is the 180 days is a rolling day count - you do not have to spend 90 days before you can enter again
Yes you are right but I was simplifying for the sake of OP who was going to stay 3/4 months in Spain continuously. So after spending 90 days in France/Spain, as they intend to, they have to leave Schengen and can only return after 90 days.
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I dont want to appear too rude but has the OP any idea what is actually happening in the world!!! Maybe it is a bit of trolling, I dont know.
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Wait a few months. Everything’s in limbo atm
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Default Re: Driving down and renting in lockdown.

Originally Posted by christmasoompa View Post
Driving from where and what is your status in Spain? It will depend on rules in your current country and any you'd pass through (i.e. you can't leave the UK for leisure purposes until May at the earliest, and France wouldn't let you in anyway unless you come under one of the exemptions, etc). If you can clarify then people can help.
If you could actually leave the UK, one exception accepted at the French border is proof that you are returning "home" to your principal place of residence, either in France or in transit to Spain/Portugal/Italy.... Which you wouldn't be. As said, a UK-registered car would be a target for the Gendarmerie if you managed to get through border control.... Not to mention the present nationwide curfew after 18h00 and the fact that restaurants, etc... have been closed for almost a year. Not the best time to travel through France, even for expat residents in France and in those countries....
When the present travel restrictions from the UK are about to be lifted, post in the France forum to find out what the situation is here, before making travel arrangements on the Continent...
HTH, but you should follow the News!!
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I dont want to appear too rude but has the OP any idea what is actually happening in the world!!! Maybe it is a bit of trolling, I dont know.
I've had my suspicions about quite a few lately. If that's the case then the perpetrator is getting their desired outcome with some of the rants and less than polite responses. It's beginning to remind me of my old village pub with the old guy in the corner barking his opinions and assumptions at newcomers.
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I must admit I felt a bit like that with my thread, it went a bit off piste. - What's the saying idle hands create devils work
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Windup post by OP. Boring day?
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