Abyss-Rover

How would you know?

lynnxa

because I know they don't get paid at all.............

Abyss-Rover

What's the chances of others answering this now, given the interest of mods and admin?

What is the community opinion?

Mitzyboy

She's right

I understand your concerns, but can I assure you that it has nothing to do with lost revenue for the site owners. If we dont remove these posts pretty soon the whole forum will be full of advertising, as will the threads, and the forum will be a less inviting place to be

Maybe "spammer" is a bit of a loose term in this situation, but you would be surprised the lengths these people will go to to get their links up in the forums

Abyss-Rover

Most appreciated Mitzyboy,

This all started out as an innocence question, to clarify a term. My reason for asking was, because I missed something I wanted, from another forum, who also removed links based on advertising.

I most certainly do not agree that advertising should be forced down the community's throat but information is one of the main reasons why people (like me) join expat and community forums.

I can also understand your point, regarding "the lengths people will go to",. Is there any way to harmonise this, giving the community what they want?

Mitzyboy

Do you want links to pornographic sites, to wireless internet in India, electrical stores in California? We're not talking useful stuff for the Spanish community here, we're talking people who are paid to put links in as many possible places as they can. As stated earlier in the thread, you cant even see the links in some posts. They wouldnt be any use to you, they are purely there for search engines from outside to find.

Thats what a lot of the mods here spend their time and effort doing ... and it aint easy

Theres a classified section on the forum for advertising, and a job offer section that employers and some agents use.

Abyss-Rover

Thank you Mitzyboy,

Saying this, my question was regarding the use of the word "Spammer", not whether ex-patriots, living in Spain, should or should not be able to choose for themselves. I'm not quite sure why this question has met a barrage of points regarding advertising.

In any case, the community have had the opportunity to give their opinion, for some time now. I'm not sure why there has not been many comments from the community, whether it be that they do not know the exact meaning of this word or they are afraid to comment, now that officialdom has stepped in. So I guess this thread was a waste of time.

Thanks anyway.

Rosemary

I think that the mods and admin save us a lot of time by removing all of this unwanted stuff. Forums can be ruined if this is not done thoroughly. I belong to a craft forum which gets inundated with spammer ads which at times (when no mod is available) can mean that loads of the posts are spammers so it is difficult to find the real threads that you want to be viewing.

Keep up the good work, it keeps our forum for what it is really for and stops us having to plough through the rubbish.

Rosemary

lynnxa

You have been here long enough to know that there are quite a few posters here who are afraid of nothing!!! Perhaps they (like me) just don't see what you are getting at - spam is spam - you actually agree with admin as to what that is

I think the lack of interest in this thread is simply that the majority of posters are happy with the way things are run here

Agreed links in signatures (from your point 'in-quote') are of course not spam, so as far as I can see, nothing to do with the question

lol - you took your own thread off-topic!!

Abyss-Rover

Dear lynnxa,

I have no wish to get dragged into an immature argument. Thank you for giving your definition of this word (as topic), now I'm sure you have something much more important that you could be doing.

Abyss-Rover

Hi Rosemary,

I agree with what you say. It just appears (to me) that the wrong term is being used, to describe this. It must be hard to come up with a happy medium in this matter (sorry, off topic) and I too appreciate the work done to protect us from unnecessary and unwanted exploitation of the threads.

I guess that the most intelligent answer is " - spam is spam - ", although I would be more inclined to believe this:

Spam (its name derived from "Spiced Ham")[1] is a canned precooked meat product made by the Hormel Foods Corporation, first introduced in 1937.

spam

Electronic junk mail or junk newsgroup postings. Some people define spam even more generally as any unsolicited e-mail. However, if a long-lost brother finds your e-mail address and sends you a message, this could hardly be called spam, even though it's unsolicited. Real spam is generally e-mail advertising for some product sent to a mailing list or newsgroup.

In addition to wasting people's time with unwanted e-mail, spam also eats up a lot of network bandwidth. Consequently, there are many organizations, as well as individuals, who have taken it upon themselves to fight spam with a variety of techniques. But because the Internet is public, there is really little that can be done to prevent spam, just as it is impossible to prevent junk mail. However, some online services have instituted policies to prevent spammers from spamming their subscribers.

There is some debate about the source of the term, but the generally accepted version is that it comes from the Monty Python song, "Spam spam spam spam, spam spam spam spam, lovely spam, wonderful spam??" Like the song, spam is an endless repetition of worthless text. Another school of thought maintains that it comes from the computer group lab at the University of Southern California who gave it the name because it has many of the same characteristics as the lunchmeat Spam:

Nobody wants it or ever asks for it.
No one ever eats it; it is the first item to be pushed to the side when eating the entree.
Sometimes it is actually tasty, like 1% of junk mail that is really useful to some people.

The Monty Python song reminds me of a previous post.

lynnxa

immature???

I don't agree with you so I'm immature

missile

I cannot believe we have three pages on what IMHO is worthless topic about semantics.

agoreira

Nor me! To misquote him, "I'm sure he has something much more important that he could be doing."

lynnxa

I told him no-one was interested